Can't do bikes.
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SuperHangOn

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3,486 posts

183 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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I consider myself fairly handy with spanners. I've changed head gaskets, ripped dashboards out for heater matrixes, fitted my kitchen etc etc. However, a rear derailleur... its witchcraft I tell you! I can just never get a bike to work properly. Surely I'm not alone on this?


CoolC

4,500 posts

244 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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There is witchcraft involved, but as long as you get the upper and lower limit screws set right the rest usually follows suit.

Now, wheel truing.....that's real witchcraft biggrin

Celtic Dragon

3,353 posts

265 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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They're easy! made even easier if you use a work stand so you can adjust and index at the same time.

SuperHangOn

Original Poster:

3,486 posts

183 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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I changed the wheels with a new cassette and chain, now it changes gear on its own. I think theres a poltergeist in the derailleur.

Edited by SuperHangOn on Saturday 10th August 11:34

duff

1,051 posts

229 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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A good guide to rear mech adjustment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_KNGQFPT9U

Andy OH

1,960 posts

280 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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It's not rocket science. This link may also help:

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/rear-dera...

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

165 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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CoolC said:
There is witchcraft involved, but as long as you get the upper and lower limit screws set right the rest usually follows suit.

Now, wheel truing.....that's real witchcraft biggrin
Main tip I'd give is unhook the cables when setting the limit screws - that way the levers and indexing doesn't get involved / screw things up. Once that's set, do the cable tension. Simples.

Wheel truing isn't witchcraft either - very methodical. Sheldon brown is a good reference as ever..

Engineer1

10,486 posts

239 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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The thing is all the bits are simple but if something is bent broken or slightly out you will never get it to work right.

Contaminated

119 posts

225 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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I'm with the OP on this. I've pretty much rebuilt my whole car, fitted kitchens and bathrooms, plastered, painted, fitted carpets, layed floors, tiled the kitchen, bathroom and conservatory and re-wired the house. I always service my own cars, even the newer ones, and I service my friends cars, change the brakes etc. The gears on my bike - hopeless! I just can't get it right. It's off for a service at my LBS next week.

SuperHangOn

Original Poster:

3,486 posts

183 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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Contaminated said:
I'm with the OP on this. I've pretty much rebuilt my whole car, fitted kitchens and bathrooms, plastered, painted, fitted carpets, layed floors, tiled the kitchen, bathroom and conservatory and re-wired the house. I always service my own cars, even the newer ones, and I service my friends cars, change the brakes etc. The gears on my bike - hopeless! I just can't get it right. It's off for a service at my LBS next week.
Mines in the shop as we speak.

I have to admit though, plastering is even worse than bike derailleurs. About once a month I wake up in a cold sweat remembering my attempt to plaster over the artex ceiling in the living room.

Matt London

815 posts

198 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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A mech hanger alignment tool is a very handy thing to own. If the hanger is out of alignment the gears won't work properly/smoothly.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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Celtic Dragon said:
They're easy! made even easier if you use a work stand so you can adjust and index at the same time.
Some bikes - some full sus designs - will only properly index when the suspension is loaded. I found this out on my Turner. Nearly sawed the thing in half with frustration and being unable to get the chain to stop rubbing on the front mech. For some reason I decided to ride it round the garden whilst looking down to see exactly where it was catching and the bugger stopped doing it. VERY frustrating.