Channel 4 programme "Sped Trap"

Channel 4 programme "Sped Trap"

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williamp

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19,501 posts

279 months

Saturday 6th July 2002
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Twenty minutes in and I'm already pi**ed off with the programme. A few sensible points, but once again "speed kills" all over the place.

Grrrrrr

Why can't we have a proper debate, with more from the ABD???

thub

1,359 posts

290 months

Monday 8th July 2002
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I only caught the end of this programme, when the reporter was reiterating the 'one third of accidents are caused by speed' lie. It would seem from his comment that he didn't really look too hard at the available statistics, nor question that berk of a police inspector.

It seems missing the programme was better for my stress level.

JMGS4

8,756 posts

276 months

Monday 8th July 2002
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Agreed there seemed to be BBC-type hype in some places, BUT the comments about the publics acceptance of electronic highwaymen and the loss of respect for the police through the obvious stealth tax placement of such robbers was VERY apt. Also the lawmakers should be aware of the total loss of respect to them in GB as has been proven in Canada (and not only BC). Around Toronto they even had the Gatsos regularly shot-up/smashed, runn down etc etc. Total cost to Ontario around 122 million C$!! (BC 35Million C$!) Now they've all been removed and more car patrols.... meets with more respect and the occasional talking to and less tickets.....
I am sure that no PHer (as reflected in many posts) has no problem with the boys in blue when they're on patrol and not got a munk-on. We often have been stopped and had a talking to, and then let off.
The electronic highwaymen have a TOTAL inability to take into account the time, road conditions or the ability of the driver... so scrap these electronic highwaymen immediately or I'd assist in their removal......

billb

3,198 posts

271 months

Monday 8th July 2002
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I thought it was quite well balanced on the whole - he certainly didnt fully support speed cameras as didnt most of the police featured ( i did miss the first 15 mins ). Some interesting facts like road deaths have actually gone up, research proves that people speed before and after cameras so there effective distance is very small, some are proved to be revenue generators and the best one of all the number of road deaths a year equate to 150 lockerbies, 50 hatfields, 50 concorde crashes and 50 something else etc( or something like that )- yet vvvv little is spent on road safety.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

272 months

Monday 8th July 2002
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........the best one of all the number of road deaths a year equate to 150 lockerbies, 50 hatfields, 50 concorde crashes and 50 something else etc( or something like that )- yet vvvv little is spent on road safety.



No no no you've missed the point AGAIN!! Each of these tax inspectors, sorry, revenue raisers, sorry, speed cameras, sorry SAFETY cameras cost about £30K, so the more of them we have, the more we can show we are spending on road safety. The fact that pedestrians make up a large portion of the casualty figures is irrelevant - people have every right to walk out in front of a 1 ton mass moving and see if the driver can stop in time, its not their fault if he doesn't. If you think we're going to spend money on teaching road sense to the public you can think again - that would be just tooooooooo expensive - and then what would we do with all the Hospitals we've built to deal with the axpected casualty rate.... I dunno, you guys just dont understand basic economics!


If we stop people enjoying the driving experience, we can stop cars being used, stop the oil companies making profit, reduce the tax income from fuel, charge for "congestion", destroy all town and country life then hand over the remains to Brussels while we go off and lord it up a bit on our index linked pensions and free holidays........