LPG Gas

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lpgrocks

Original Poster:

91 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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As my name suggest, I am a lover of this super fuel. Does anyone else run this fuel, or thinking about it?

Price frozen till 2004, well by the government anyways.

Pete_W

646 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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-thanks for pointing that out, I always read your name as L P Grocks, seriously!!

lpgrocks

Original Poster:

91 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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Oh, what does the "W" stand for then...

Pete_W

646 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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Oh, what does the "W" stand for then...



-can't say now all this censorship is happening

yertis

18,563 posts

272 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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Convince me - what's the advantage?

Basil Brush

5,205 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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Convince me - what's the advantage?



It's cheap.

Pete_W

646 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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-and nasty!

lpgrocks

Original Poster:

91 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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Convince me - what's the advantage?



It's cheap.


Yes, although it does less to the gallon. It causes less damage to your engine, less pollutants (like we care) and it smells suuuuperb!

And when the protests were on I could get fuel no worrys !

Pete_W

646 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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-so any real advantages to LPG?

yertis

18,563 posts

272 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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Don't you have to load the car up with all kinds of extra tanks and plumbing? Must be a weight penalty surely. What's the equivalent octane rating?

lpgrocks

Original Poster:

91 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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None at all....

Sod this I am joining the "gearbox oil and sprockets" thread, much more fun..come you "W" join me

lpgrocks

Original Poster:

91 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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Don't you have to load the car up with all kinds of extra tanks and plumbing? Must be a weight penalty surely. What's the equivalent octane rating?


Less octane, thats why it does less MPG. Now stop all this and lets talk about wee, and poo.

yertis

18,563 posts

272 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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And what about anti-knock properties? Do you need valve inserts in older engines? What sort of fuel management systems can you run it through? Give me facts!

moleamol

15,887 posts

269 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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The only advantage I can see is extra weight, useful for erm, ok maybe that's not one. The cost then, but then erm, you would have to keep your car an age or do ridiculous mileage to get any advantage. Oh I see being an eco friendly unwashed type

marki

15,763 posts

276 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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Dear Mr. Grocks


So how many tank stations are there for lpg stuff , i know in Holland it is quite normal to use this stuff ,, i thought in the UK it had really limited availability

JohnL

1,763 posts

271 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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lpgsucks - IMO

This is based on my experience of f**king up my Nissan with it. Well, no, to be fair it still runs fine on petrol. But I'd take a heck of a lot of convincing to do it again.


>> Edited by JohnL on Saturday 6th July 13:52

pbrettle

3,280 posts

289 months

Friday 5th July 2002
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From what I understand with LPG there are a few things that you need to be aware of. It certainly isnt for all and you can convert almost any car, but you will get better / worse results with some cars.

For example there are certain types of car that it suits very well. For example the Jeep 4.0 engine is supposed to be cracking for conversion due to the american standard build engine - remember they run pi55 water for "gas" (nee petrol) and therefore the engines are already setup and programmed to cope with almost any fuel you put in the damn things. Some of the Fords and Vauxhalls have all been easily convertable for a couple of years now and again very good and pretty easy. Strangely engines such as the Rover V8 cause problems - rememeber it is actually old! But setup right by a reputable company with a warranty and it should be fine.

But its not for all. I do lots of motorway driving (all most all English motorway service stations have LPG), on full roads (no fast powering for me) and I look to cover something between 20,000 to 25,000 miles per year. Pretty high and fit into the bracket nicely. So much so I am strongly considering a Jeep Cherokee with LPG as my next car. Dont care it wont go fast or that it is crap on corners - cant remember the corners on the M25 being that bad for example. But the near 35MPG (even upto 40 if you are lucky) equivalent is appealing. If it were standard petrol at 20MPG then there would be no way I could afford it or justify it.... but as you can see I am one of the narrow band that it suits well....

Remember if you do less than 15,000 miles per year dont do it, it wont pay for itself. However, more than that and it might, just might be worth considering...

Cheers,

Paul

andytk

1,553 posts

272 months

Saturday 6th July 2002
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Ah sod LPG convert your car to run on ethanol. If you can live with piss poor fuel consumption (enthanol has half the calorific value of petrol but you simply burn twice as much) then it would be OK. Also has a very high octane rating. I'm convinced if you could get a cheap (industrial feedstock??) supply (dodging the normal fuel tax in the process) then it may work out cheaper.

Plus its a close relative of methanol the high octane stuff the yanks run Corvette race cars on in some series or other.

Just my 2ps worth

Andy

edited cos I'd spelt yanks as yeaks

>> Edited by andytk on Saturday 6th July 00:47

digitalnoodle

8 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th August 2002
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Nissan Primera eGT running LPG. Lost some torque (that's probably a good thing in a FWD car), lost some economy (10%-ish), 100 litre tank in the boot makes my car a motorway grenade. However, it's nice n' cheap and on my daily commute (110 mile round trip) there are 3 fuel outlets.

I had the kit weighed before fitting and it was about 80 kilos. That's the equivalent of a chubby friend. Centre of gravity's moved up though and passive oversteer is now more difficult to control (not that I could condone such behaviour on HM's roads)

ap_smith

1,997 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th August 2002
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I believe if your car is less than 3 years old, then you get a grant from the government which covers a large proportion of the cost of conversion, so it should pay for itself very quickly. Can't be more exact 'cos I don't know all the figures, but can't be bothered looking 'em up either.

If you're interested I'm sure Google can help.