Just had a free air show of the 'Grace Spitfire'.
Just had a free air show of the 'Grace Spitfire'.
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poo at Paul's

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14,594 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Just driving through a village near Banbury, and suddenly got buzzed by a Spitfire on full chat, saw it climb out bank round and come back, diving toward a big house in the village. I pulled the car over and got out, it did a 10 minute display or so centred on the house, very low on occasions, certainly no more than a couple of hundred feet up, maybe nearer 100 ft as it pull out of dives etc. a good display, but really did reek havoc in this tiny village, cars all stopped on the main road, traffics at a standstill.
I recognise the plane as the Grace Spitfire' pretty well known one and very recognisable. Was great to see and hear it, but it always makes me cringe a bit when they turn up and buzz about, just so low and in manoeuvres that should there be the slightest thing go awry mechanically or flight wise, there would be utter carnage potentially affecting many properties, people etc. these private displays should surely be 'not below 500ft' by law, it's not an airfield or even open countryside this was right over a village .
Bit naughty, but very nice to get a free display!!

Hooli

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229 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Brother D

4,419 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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poo at Paul's said:
Just driving through a village near Banbury, and suddenly got buzzed by a Spitfire on full chat, saw it climb out bank round and come back, diving toward a big house in the village. I pulled the car over and got out, it did a 10 minute display or so centred on the house, very low on occasions, certainly no more than a couple of hundred feet up, maybe nearer 100 ft as it pull out of dives etc. a good display, but really did reek havoc in this tiny village, cars all stopped on the main road, traffics at a standstill.
I recognise the plane as the Grace Spitfire' pretty well known one and very recognisable. Was great to see and hear it, but it always makes me cringe a bit when they turn up and buzz about, just so low and in manoeuvres that should there be the slightest thing go awry mechanically or flight wise, there would be utter carnage potentially affecting many properties, people etc. these private displays should surely be 'not below 500ft' by law, it's not an airfield or even open countryside this was right over a village .
Bit naughty, but very nice to get a free display!!
Quick I need a fluffy bunny and 100 yards of cotton wool to protect the OP STAT!



poo at Paul's

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14,594 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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What a very odd response. Youre clearly a bit of a div.
My slight discomfort comes from seeing two pilots killed whilst I was controlling them when they got it wrong. In one case, the pilot had been reprimanded a few weeks before for 'flying like a nob' when he ploughed his yak into the field behind his house whilst performing for his son's 5th birthday! Not pleasant on many levels.
Thankfully no one on the ground physically hurt.


So as I say, it always makes me slightly uncomfortable performing like this over cities, towns or settlements, just in case it goes wrong.

Now don't tell me you're so naive that you don't think pilots or aircraft ever fk up, do you? I know when I used to fly, I occasionally got it badly wrong and whilst that was in stuff that means things happen a bit quicker than in a Spitfire, it still makes me wonder is it right to fly like this?

It was an excellent display and great to see and hear, but, is it the right time and place to fly so low in such sporty manoeuvres? Ignoring the fact that it is against the law, or course.

Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 25th July 19:53

eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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poo at Paul's said:
What a very odd response. Youre clearly a bit of a div.
My slight discomfort comes from seeing two pilots killed whilst I was controlling them when they got it wrong. In one case, the pilot had been reprimanded a few weeks before for 'flying like a nob' when he ploughed his yak into the field behind his house whilst performing for his son's 5th birthday! Not pleasant on many levels.
Thankfully no one on the ground physically hurt.
When was the incident involving the Yak? In what capacity were you acting as a controller?

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

311 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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The display was for a private wedding near Upper Heyford.

If it was below 500feet it's not necessarily against the air law rules as there are exemptions for displays, and if you really were a controller you should know that.

The Nur

9,168 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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mattdaniels said:
The display was for a private wedding.
Wow. Fantastic wedding.

jjones

4,488 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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got a link to the aaib report for the yak episode?

texaxile

3,752 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Lucky bugger smile

Me and a mate were metal detecting on Felixstowe beach last year when a Spit came over (I think it was the one based at Debach) and did a practice display along the seafront.

Made our day, bks to the detecting.

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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texaxile said:
Me and a mate were metal detecting on Felixstowe beach last year when a Spit came over (I think it was the one based at Debach) and did a practice display along the seafront.
That's shocking, it might have crashed on an innocent dog walker. Where's my MP?

RichB

56,208 posts

313 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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mattdaniels said:
The display was for a private wedding near Upper Heyford.

If it was below 500feet it's not necessarily against the air law rules as there are exemptions for displays, and if you really were a controller you should know that.
Indeed, and I can't remember the rule without consulting my books but isn't it something like a gathering of over 500 people constitutes a public display? I expect Ed could tell us wink Anyway at Booker we often pull what you might call aerobatic manoeuvers well below 500' often as low as 100' and that's without an engine! Heaven help us...

Smiler.

11,752 posts

259 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Living close to White Waltham, we often get a certain bi-plane pilot "larging" it over our place or very near. biggrin


The single-engined BBMF stuff generally chugs by at a leisurely pace (the multi-engined ones always sound awesome).

The same goes for the Yaks, although one was a bit lively towards Wokingham the other night.




King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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poo at Paul's said:
.......but it always makes me cringe a bit when they turn up and buzz about, just so low and in manoeuvres that should there be the slightest thing go awry mechanically or flight wise, there would be utter carnage potentially affecting many properties, people etc. .....
I would consider it a privilege to depart this mortal coil courtesy of an errant Spitfire doing what it does best. biggrin



Damn, a single liner and I still had to come back to correct a typo.....


Edited by King Herald on Friday 26th July 20:50

Burrow01

1,983 posts

221 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Often get the BBMF flying overhead at pretty low altitudes

Quite often surprised at how low they do fly (Dakota went over very low a couple of weeks ago) but always glad they do smile