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Another 12 months or so according to an RAF bod i was talking too at RIAT on Sunday - he told me that when the VC10 did what was thought to be its final fly-past at RIAT.
He says it might still be in service, & therefore able to do another fly-past, at RIAT 2014.
Hope so because it is a majestic looking aircraft.
He says it might still be in service, & therefore able to do another fly-past, at RIAT 2014.
Hope so because it is a majestic looking aircraft.
And we could have had this well before the A380 - http://www.vc10.net/History/doubledeck_super_vc10....
fatboy69 said:
Another 12 months or so according to an RAF bod i was talking too at RIAT on Sunday - he told me that when the VC10 did what was thought to be its final fly-past at RIAT.
He says it might still be in service, & therefore able to do another fly-past, at RIAT 2014.
Hope so because it is a majestic looking aircraft.
Never say never I guess but I really doubt it. As the maintenance facility at St Athan has now closed, there is no more Minor/Major service capability left. All the remaining frames have maintenance extensions, these wont see them past the end of 2013 so it'll take a lot of extra cash to see them fly beyond September. Given the fallout from Haddon-Cave etc I doubt you'll see it next year. I'd be happy to be wrong though as they're great aircraft to see. Also 101 Sqn (the current operators) are designated to standown in September and reform as the second Voyager Sqn - so who'll fly it and maintain it beyond then is anyone's guess!He says it might still be in service, & therefore able to do another fly-past, at RIAT 2014.
Hope so because it is a majestic looking aircraft.
It's scheduled to appear at a couple more airshows over the next couple of months so still a few chances to see them flying.
Inkyfingers said:
Still in service with a few small airlines in Africa as well.
As Eric mentioned above, that's not the case I'm afraid. The RAF are the only VC10 operator still flying them. FourWheelDrift said:
And we could have had this well before the A380 - http://www.vc10.net/History/doubledeck_super_vc10....
That would've been terrific. I wished they'd pushed ahead with something like that. I know the costs/fuel burn/engineering issues etc meant it wasn't economically viable but I'd still love to have seen it built!Edited by DuraAce on Wednesday 24th July 11:56
Edited by DuraAce on Wednesday 24th July 11:58
Latest rumour on RAF retirements is C1K XR808 might no longer be going to Cosford (H&S concerns about the runway not being long enough 
) it might be going to Bruntingthorpe instead as the active ground runner instead of K4 ZD241. Or it might be going by road to Cosford and ZD241 might still be going to Bruntingthorpe.
Anyone have any clearer news as to what's happening?
) it might be going to Bruntingthorpe instead as the active ground runner instead of K4 ZD241. Or it might be going by road to Cosford and ZD241 might still be going to Bruntingthorpe.Anyone have any clearer news as to what's happening?
H & S concerns about the runway? FFS.
Can you imagine this breed of fool back in 1941/42 - 'awfully sorry old chap but you cant land on that field because there is a divot of turf out of place which might cause you to have an accident. Yes i know that a nasty German has filled your plane with bullett's but the grass field might not be safe.........'
Jeez. The mind boggles sometimes. RAF pilots who know their aircraft inside out are not now trusted to land them safely by some clip board wielding idiot.
Its no wonder that we in such a mess these days. Unbelievable.
Can you imagine this breed of fool back in 1941/42 - 'awfully sorry old chap but you cant land on that field because there is a divot of turf out of place which might cause you to have an accident. Yes i know that a nasty German has filled your plane with bullett's but the grass field might not be safe.........'
Jeez. The mind boggles sometimes. RAF pilots who know their aircraft inside out are not now trusted to land them safely by some clip board wielding idiot.
Its no wonder that we in such a mess these days. Unbelievable.
I see your point to a degree but we're not at war so things have to be done 100% safely. Imagine the fall out if there was an incident/accident as 75+Tonnes of VC10 skids off the end of the runway Cosford?
Haddon-Cave and the subsequent MAA means they don't accept risks like they did in the past. Things have changed and changed for the better in my limited experience.
I believe the assessment of a VC10 into Cosford is still on-going regarding runway length, crash cover, aircraft weight at touchdown and braking performance etc etc. So it still might happen yet. As mentioned above one should also make it to Bruntinghthorpe although which frame will end up in which location is still in the planning stage. Should all become clear as we move towards September I imagine.
Haddon-Cave and the subsequent MAA means they don't accept risks like they did in the past. Things have changed and changed for the better in my limited experience.
I believe the assessment of a VC10 into Cosford is still on-going regarding runway length, crash cover, aircraft weight at touchdown and braking performance etc etc. So it still might happen yet. As mentioned above one should also make it to Bruntinghthorpe although which frame will end up in which location is still in the planning stage. Should all become clear as we move towards September I imagine.
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