Grossglockner and route advice to Monaco after
Discussion
Hi chaps, just wondering if I need to do any route planning to drive the Grossglockner alpine road. Is it just a straight road all the way though like the swiss alpine passes.
Also I plan to go there from Stuttgart and am wondering if anybody could suggest me an interesting route to Grossglockner via Munich. I have driven through the black mountains before but it would be a little out of the way.
From Glossglockner to Monaco I was thinking either to go to Maranello and check out the factory there, are there good roads en route through Italy or are the roads horrible (is Maranello even worth going to?) or instead take a route through Switzerland and hit more alpine passes.
Also I plan to go there from Stuttgart and am wondering if anybody could suggest me an interesting route to Grossglockner via Munich. I have driven through the black mountains before but it would be a little out of the way.
From Glossglockner to Monaco I was thinking either to go to Maranello and check out the factory there, are there good roads en route through Italy or are the roads horrible (is Maranello even worth going to?) or instead take a route through Switzerland and hit more alpine passes.
kazino said:
...Is it just a straight road all the way though like the swiss alpine passes....
Don't know the answer but I think there's something wrong with the question. Yet to find an alpine pass thats a straight road. 
If you're heading down to Monaco be sure to do the Col du Turini.
AdiT said:
kazino said:
...Is it just a straight road all the way though like the swiss alpine passes....
Don't know the answer but I think there's something wrong with the question. Yet to find an alpine pass thats a straight road. If you're heading down to Monaco be sure to do the Col du Turini.
Kronstein said:
AdiT said:
kazino said:
...Is it just a straight road all the way though like the swiss alpine passes....
Don't know the answer but I think there's something wrong with the question. Yet to find an alpine pass thats a straight road. If you're heading down to Monaco be sure to do the Col du Turini.
I went over the Grossglockner a couple of days ago, and have to say the views and scenery are amazing. However, at this time of year it wasn't a fun drive at all, full of tourist buses and all manner of slow vehicles. Plus factor in it costs 33€ to drive it. If it were me, I'd head from Munich towards Innsbruck, follow the roads to the south west and pick up the Stelvio, then take te road from Bormio to Davos via Livigno, which will mean you take in the Fluela Pass, which is awesome fun to drive. Stop in Davos for the night and then look to tackle the San Bernadino the next day.
I did those exact swiss passes and a couple of others a couple of years back and they were all amazing. I'd like to try something new, so was thinking col de turini. Do you have any other suggestions of mountain roads.
djtex said:
I went over the Grossglockner a couple of days ago, and have to say the views and scenery are amazing. However, at this time of year it wasn't a fun drive at all, full of tourist buses and all manner of slow vehicles. Plus factor in it costs 33€ to drive it. If it were me, I'd head from Munich towards Innsbruck, follow the roads to the south west and pick up the Stelvio, then take te road from Bormio to Davos via Livigno, which will mean you take in the Fluela Pass, which is awesome fun to drive. Stop in Davos for the night and then look to tackle the San Bernadino the next day.
djtex said:
However, at this time of year it wasn't a fun drive at all, full of tourist buses and all manner of slow vehicles. Plus factor in it costs 33€ to drive it.
I just checked and you are correct. Phew. Won't be doing that road again.Shame.
We've all got our favourite routes, but the 'bahn south from Munich,
via Garmisch, and over the easy peasy Fernpass into Imst
is one of my favourites for the newbie.
I did Timmelsjoch (2,509 meters) for the first time in many years last
week and it's pretty good.
Below that, there's Stallersattel at 2,059 m with the comedy one way road
and traffic lights. That's lots of fun.
Then there's NockAlmStrasse, 2,042 m which is way over in the SE of Salzburg
and it doesn't ring a bell with me.
Then there's Bielerhoehe, 2,036 m over in the Vorarlberg. That's pretty good.
The last of the Austrian ones over 2,000 m is the Kuehtai. I did that
recently in the rain. Not as good as the rest.
kazino said:
I did those exact swiss passes and a couple of others a couple of years back and they were all amazing. I'd like to try something new, so was thinking col de turini. Do you have any other suggestions of mountain roads.
Really a trip to the Grossglockner would sync in nicely with a trip exploring the Dolomites and/or more of Austria and the Black Forest. If you wanted to do the South of France I'd opt for two different trips because there's so much to explore in each region.However for 1 trip, decide on how many passes you wanted to include between Austria and France and either follow the Alps through Switzerland then maybe the Grand and Petit Bernard passes and down through the French Alps (knock off all the big ones like the L'Iseran, Izoard, Galibier, Bonette etc) or pick a more direct route from Austria (possibly through the Dolomites which would be good fun - you could spend a week there and not get bored) to save time and after Monaco and the Turini (include the Col de Braus too as it's a good one), head home either by the French passes mentioned earlier or by the N85.
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