Transferring a cherished number
Discussion
If I sell my car, which has a personalised number that I want to retain, what number does the car get when I sell it?
For instance, I'm likely to buy a newer one so the numbers can't be swapped because that would be making the older car (which I'm selling) appear younger then it is.
Is this a daft question? It's just that I've never been through the process, so some basic conceptual help would be - er - helpful...
For instance, I'm likely to buy a newer one so the numbers can't be swapped because that would be making the older car (which I'm selling) appear younger then it is.
Is this a daft question? It's just that I've never been through the process, so some basic conceptual help would be - er - helpful...
LAst time my father did this on his cherished number, he just transferred the number to his new car (or you could put it on retention for up to a year, its the same cost) and the DVLA assign a new registration number of the same year to the car. I don't think you get the original registration back, but I could be wrong of course.
I've had a quick look at www.dvla-som.co.uk but can't find the answer for you right now.
I've had a quick look at www.dvla-som.co.uk but can't find the answer for you right now.
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The car will get its original number back if available, or, will be assigned a new relevant year related number, the swap idea would cost you two transfer fees if it was a possibility.
It is difficult to get the original number back even if you want to - tried this with E555BBB a few years back and it took a while, in the end I convinced them by saying the windows were etched with that number. The DVLA issue a new (unissued) number of the same suffix/prefix year as the year the car was first registered. They don't even bother issuing the same area coding.
The DVLA will often reassign the cars original number - they did this when I sold my Jeep (usefull if you have the old plates), otherwise it will another year related plate. The 'new' car they transfer your cherished plate to will just lose the old plate.
When I bought the V8S it had an Irish plate the was not sold with car, but the DVLA assigned a different plate to the original (the car has had a number of plates including A11 TVR).
Good luck.
When I bought the V8S it had an Irish plate the was not sold with car, but the DVLA assigned a different plate to the original (the car has had a number of plates including A11 TVR).
Good luck.
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If the number goes to a new (unregistered) car, it should only cost you the one fee, to get another number for the old car. (as you've paid road tax etc on the new one).
You pay the same fee to assign your cherished plate to a new or second hand car (£80). the cost of re-registering the car you have taken the cherished plate off is included.
Cheers,
JSG
The two fees bit i mentioned was if you wished to transfer your cherished number to your new car AND transfer the new cars number to your old car.
The non regional number assigned is in a series assigned for this purpose, therefore could be described as region = new number assigned following transfer of cherished number. I used to know the serial allocations for this but since leaving the country......
The non regional number assigned is in a series assigned for this purpose, therefore could be described as region = new number assigned following transfer of cherished number. I used to know the serial allocations for this but since leaving the country......
Manek,
I've just sold my Griff which had my personal plate on it so from experiance...
When you put the personal plate on the car did you tick the box on the V778 form that asked whether you wished to retain the original plate? If you did then when you transfer you private plate again, or put it on retention then the old plate *will* be re-assigned to the vehicle. My 1995 Griff had 4 private plates in its lifetime and for the last 3 transfers kept the same normal plate. If you didn't tick the box, then I guess its down to the luck of the draw as to what plate you get...
Also remember to start the process well before you sell or trade-in the vehicle. The number plate belongs to whoever owns the vehicle so if you sell the car with the personal plate still attached and they apply for a V5 - then its theirs. No arguement, no recourse in law. The DVLA are pretty insistent about this.
The following process is for putting your plate on rention but its virtually identical for a straight transfer onto another vehicle:
Firstly you fill in a V317 and take your MOT, V5 and £105 to a vehicle licensing office - not the post office. You can do this by post but it takes longer.
They will re-issue a new tax-disk in the number of the re-assigned/old plate and send the V5 to Swansea for re-issue.
Change the plates on the car to match the re-issued tax disk and notify your insurers. The DVLA will request that you send back your old tax disk.
Wait 3 weeks for the V5. and another week for the retention certificate.
Now everything is sorted you can sell the car. Up to this point the DVLA reserve the right to inspect the car at any reasonable time. Could be difficult if you've sold it to a bloke in Scotland
I've just sold my Griff which had my personal plate on it so from experiance...
When you put the personal plate on the car did you tick the box on the V778 form that asked whether you wished to retain the original plate? If you did then when you transfer you private plate again, or put it on retention then the old plate *will* be re-assigned to the vehicle. My 1995 Griff had 4 private plates in its lifetime and for the last 3 transfers kept the same normal plate. If you didn't tick the box, then I guess its down to the luck of the draw as to what plate you get...
Also remember to start the process well before you sell or trade-in the vehicle. The number plate belongs to whoever owns the vehicle so if you sell the car with the personal plate still attached and they apply for a V5 - then its theirs. No arguement, no recourse in law. The DVLA are pretty insistent about this.
The following process is for putting your plate on rention but its virtually identical for a straight transfer onto another vehicle:
Firstly you fill in a V317 and take your MOT, V5 and £105 to a vehicle licensing office - not the post office. You can do this by post but it takes longer.
They will re-issue a new tax-disk in the number of the re-assigned/old plate and send the V5 to Swansea for re-issue.
Change the plates on the car to match the re-issued tax disk and notify your insurers. The DVLA will request that you send back your old tax disk.
Wait 3 weeks for the V5. and another week for the retention certificate.
Now everything is sorted you can sell the car. Up to this point the DVLA reserve the right to inspect the car at any reasonable time. Could be difficult if you've sold it to a bloke in Scotland
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Thank you all for that comprehensive set of responses. So it looks like I need to apply to change the number back to the old one (or to a new one), and complete that process before selling it, while keeping the personal plate on retention.
Hi Manek,
If you're selling privately I'd agree with what you suggest, however if you trade in then the dealer can handle this for you.
When I bought my Audi I told the dealer that the plate wouldn't be staying on the Jeep I px'ed and took the reg doc and DVLA txfr form in to him a couple of days before. They then handled the txfr as they register new cars frequently and even made up the new plates free.
I then just had to pay the one fee to transfer.
Cheers,
JSG.
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