Admiralty Fast Seagoing Motorboat
Admiralty Fast Seagoing Motorboat
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Simpo Two

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92,670 posts

294 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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I was going through the photos quite well until I came across that toilet with the forced-enema gadget device thingy...


Huntsman

9,313 posts

279 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Simpo Two said:
Been on the market for a longish time, was £145k I think, now approaching a sensible starting point for haggling.

J3JCV

1,266 posts

184 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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Oddly I went on a local boat trip and we embarked from the pontoon adjacent to this, so I had a good look at her from the exterior and thought it could do with a bit of finishing really.
She is striking and certainly catches the eye, however I'm all about practicality on the water and like big open cockpits, in these boats you are so divorced from your surroundings whilst underway and its only really suited for people who like to spend all their time below decks.

mickrick

3,759 posts

202 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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There are no anti-siphon valves on the head piping.

Huntsman

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279 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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mickrick said:
There are no anti-siphon valves on the head piping.
Its a lavac.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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As a total non boaty person, 3X turbo diesels and 15 knots = no thanks.

She's basic and nice but well overpriced for what she offers IMIO.

Mo.

[In My Ignorant Opinion]

mickrick

3,759 posts

202 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Huntsman said:
mickrick said:
There are no anti-siphon valves on the head piping.
Its a lavac.
Explain? Looks like the small pipe is the seawater in, and the larger one waste out. A diaphragm pump. Two loops with no siphon break.
Not familiar with Lavac, but if you don´t close the seacocks, what stops the water siphoning back into the bowl?

Huntsman

9,313 posts

279 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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mickrick said:
Explain? Looks like the small pipe is the seawater in, and the larger one waste out. A diaphragm pump. Two loops with no siphon break.
Not familiar with Lavac, but if you don´t close the seacocks, what stops the water siphoning back into the bowl?
When you've finished your business you lower the lid on the pan, there's a rubber seal around the lid.

Operate the big pump on the bulkhead, its connected to the outlet at the bottom of the pan, creates a vacuum which draws the flushing water in through the little pipe.

Hence one single pump pulling water straight through, v simple.

If you had a big loop with a anti syphone valve in the top it'd let air in, to break the syphon, but would also prevent the vacuum so the flushing wouldn't work.

Plus on motorboats that don't heel over its quite common to find no anti syphon valve.

aeropilot

40,530 posts

256 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Mojocvh said:
As a total non boaty person, 3X turbo diesels and 15 knots = no thanks.
3 x 2,000hp supercharged V20 MB501 diesels and 50 knots is much more to my likening.

Shame only a single example of a Schnellboot exists today, so looking forward to the completion of the restoration of the Wheatcroft Collection's S-130 smile


Simpo Two

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Monday 1st July 2013
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Did E-boats really do 50kts? I thought some of our MGBs could keep up with them on a good day.

m0ssy

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221 months

mickrick

3,759 posts

202 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Huntsman said:
mickrick said:
Explain? Looks like the small pipe is the seawater in, and the larger one waste out. A diaphragm pump. Two loops with no siphon break.
Not familiar with Lavac, but if you don´t close the seacocks, what stops the water siphoning back into the bowl?
When you've finished your business you lower the lid on the pan, there's a rubber seal around the lid.

Operate the big pump on the bulkhead, its connected to the outlet at the bottom of the pan, creates a vacuum which draws the flushing water in through the little pipe.

Hence one single pump pulling water straight through, v simple.

If you had a big loop with a anti syphone valve in the top it'd let air in, to break the syphon, but would also prevent the vacuum so the flushing wouldn't work.

Plus on motorboats that don't heel over its quite common to find no anti syphon valve.
Thanks for the education smile Never had anything to do with those.
The motor boat ones I work on have a printed circuit board in the back and micro switches, besides the separate clunky clunk vacuum pump! Bloody ridiculously complicated way way to go about taking something as natural as a dump!

I´ve got a nice new mini Jabsco to go into my little jigger wink

Benjaminpalma

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211 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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m0ssy said:
Not if they're going to leave out the anti-siphon valve... getmecoat

aeropilot

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256 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Simpo Two said:
Did E-boats really do 50kts?
Yup. They had longer range than either our MTB's or the USN PT boats as well, and were better in open seas too.

When I was a kid/teenager, our next door neighbour was an ex-MTB crewman, he spent most of the war out in the med on the RN MTB fleet. At wars end they were deployed to Norway, and he was one of the crews that got to play with some surrended S-Boot's. He said they were excellent craft. It's listening to his stories back is the reason that I've always had a particular interest in S-Boot/MTB/PT ops.
I also remember he had a photo of him standing on the capsized hull of the Tirpitz smile



Simpo Two

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Monday 1st July 2013
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aeropilot said:
It's listening to his stories back is the reason that I've always had a particular interest in S-Boot/MTB/PT ops.
You may be interested in http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Narrow-Seas-History...

mickrick

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202 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Benjaminpalma said:
m0ssy said:
Not if they're going to leave out the anti-siphon valve... getmecoat
laugh One of those small private yachts that go under, and don´t come up... smile
She is nice though, but there´s now nice low cockpit to sit and drink beer while you fish. Still she´s wood, so a chainsaw could sort that in next to no time wink

Huntsman

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279 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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aeropilot said:
Shame only a single example of a Schnellboot exists today, so looking forward to the completion of the restoration of the Wheatcroft Collection's S-130 smile
Is that still making progress? No updates on the web for a long time.

aeropilot

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256 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Simpo Two said:
aeropilot said:
It's listening to his stories back is the reason that I've always had a particular interest in S-Boot/MTB/PT ops.
You may be interested in http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Narrow-Seas-History...
Not seen that one...ta smile

I have this book though which is an excellent source of info for anyone interested in MTB ops.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dog-Boats-War-Leonard-Reyn...

aeropilot

40,530 posts

256 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Huntsman said:
aeropilot said:
Shame only a single example of a Schnellboot exists today, so looking forward to the completion of the restoration of the Wheatcroft Collection's S-130 smile
Is that still making progress? No updates on the web for a long time.
Sorry, have no idea. I actually didn't realise there was a web page redface
I knew about it via word of mouth from a few years back, via people that had connections with them via their other mil vehicles projects, but have been a bit out of the loop in that respect for a few years, so not sure what is the current state of any of the military aspects of the collection thesedays.