The latest Gin palace to hit the high seas

[Gwagon111]

Well here she is. Due to be named by HRH baby bump next week . 141000 tonnes of floating city, it amazes me that there is the demand .

[FourWheelDrift]

Well judging by the number that catch fire, break down or sink they need to keep churning new ones out on a regular basis to replace them

[Gwagon111]

FourWheelDrift said:

Well judging by the number that catch fire, break down or sink they need to keep churning new ones out on a regular basis to replace them

Yeah, ain't that the truth .

[Simpo Two]

That's not unlike the P&O Ventura (18 floors) I was on in April. Didn't sink that time, though he did have to start pumping ballast water across when we were hit by a 70mph squall in the Bay of Biscay. It is quite odd to see the surface of one's wine slant... and stay slanted...!

[TheHeretic]

The Bay of Biscay is the only place I have ever been sea sick.

[Gwagon111]

Simpo Two said:

That's not unlike the P&O Ventura (18 floors) I was on in April. Didn't sink that time, though he did have to start pumping ballast water across when we were hit by a 70mph squall in the Bay of Biscay. It is quite odd to see the surface of one's wine slant... and stay slanted...!

I am responsible for the electronics, that control the stabilisation systems on just about every ship that has been launched in the last 10 years. Hopefully you didn't actually spill your wine . I do apologise, if you did . But seriously, we take the ships to Biscay, and try and hit the 'holy grail' force 12 with 60 ft pyramid waves. If we can keep 'em on an even(ish) keel in those conditions, we know we've done a good job .

[Simpo Two]

He did very well, and even came on the tannoy during the meal to apologise for the 'lean'! I think we touched Force 10.

I was surprised however just how much a big ship like that does pitch and roll, but that's just my rosy expectations I think!

ETA Your profile photo has capsized!

[Gwagon111]

Simpo Two said:

ETA Your profile photo has capsized!

It does that from time to time. I think that I need to trim the gyros a bit .

[RISK]

That type of ship is just plain ugly. Amazing but ugly. It's a shame that there isn't still a market for the 1920's - 1930's style of ship with all of the wonderful interior design of that era but on a modern hull and with modern safety & services.

[FourWheelDrift]

RISK said:

That type of ship is just plain ugly. Amazing but ugly. It's a shame that there isn't still a market for the 1920's - 1930's style of ship with all of the wonderful interior design of that era but on a modern hull and with modern safety & services.

We shall see - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-216...

[Gwagon111]

The France / Norway, was the last 'stunning' liner, IMHO. The QM2 is the closest we have to a true liner now.

[JW911]

Gwagon111 said:

The France / Norway, was the last 'stunning' liner, IMHO. The QM2 is the closest we have to a true liner now.

The QM2 is the only "ocean liner" currently in service in the world. Everything else is a "cruise ship". Different design spec apparently.

[RISK]

FourWheelDrift said:

We shall see - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-216...

Nice idea but they should be going for the sheer opulence of a 20's ocean liner. I realise it will be a good investment remaking the Titanic and I would be very curious to spend some time on it and marvel at the décor and style etc. But I would have thought that a ship with all of the Art Décor style, 20-30's style service and respect would be a terrific theme holiday that would be booked up well in advance.

[Gwagon111]

JW911 said:

The QM2 is the only "ocean liner" currently in service in the world. Everything else is a "cruise ship". Different design spec apparently.

It's the shape if the Bow that is the key. A liner has to do the transatlantic crossings, the bow has a pointy bendy profile, in order to facilitate a smoother passage through the Atlantic swell.


Here's the QM2 (a liner)






Here's the Independence Of The Sea (a cruise ship)

Edited by Gwagon111 on Saturday 8th June 09:48

[tdm34]

TheHeretic said:

The Bay of Biscay is the only place I have ever been sea sick.

Me too, we were on Canberra in 1996, and went through the BoB in a massive storm, it was interesting.....

[TheHeretic]

tdm34 said:

TheHeretic said:

The Bay of Biscay is the only place I have ever been sea sick.

Me too, we were on Canberra in 1996, and went through the BoB in a massive storm, it was interesting.....

I was on this,



About 180 foot long, and about 9 knots top speed. To say it moved about was an understatement. I sat on the lower deck, on the cables, staring at the horizon, as waves came in that were taller than the boat.

It was my first ever trip to sea.

[StephenP]

Gwagon111 said:

It's the shape if the Bow that is the key. A liner has to do the transatlantic crossings, the bow has a pointy bendy profile, in order to facilitate a smoother passage through the Atlantic swell.

Does the height between the water line and the first open deck also distinguish the two types? I seem to recall someone once saying liners have very high sides to allow all year round transatlantic capability?

[Gwagon111]

StephenP said:

Does the height between the water line and the first open deck also distinguish the two types? I seem to recall someone once saying liners have very high sides to allow all year round transatlantic capability?

Yep, spot on .

[Gwagon111]

Well, the Royal Princess has just shoved off, on her first passenger carrying jolly. All I can say about it is, musical horns . Seriously? .

[Simpo Two]

General Lee style?