Gen 2 C4S inside tyres wear .. on all 4 with geo spot on!
Gen 2 C4S inside tyres wear .. on all 4 with geo spot on!
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thetubbster

Original Poster:

29 posts

204 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Hi guys and gals,

I have a Gen2 C4S and have done 5000 miles since i bought it from Porsche Reading. Geo was done then and has just been checked. However, the inside inch of all 4 tyres has worn out. They are the Bridgestones.

Thoughts please?

MadMark981

1,755 posts

179 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Try driving it harder round corners? wink

RatBoy M3CSL

1,490 posts

226 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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..That's what happens with 1 degree of camber over a wide tyre and lots of motorway miles, the fix is usually buy some new ones, If the tyres were not new when you got it, then say 10,000 miles on a set is pretty good.., I work on 6-7K for rears.

Shurv

1,024 posts

190 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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They all do that, it's perfectly normal.Any wide tyres sports car will wear the inside edges of the tyres,the camber is set up for maximum tyre footprint under cornering.Nothing to worry about, just keep throwing tyres at it and enjoy.

thetubbster

Original Poster:

29 posts

204 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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very few motorway miles..

Corners.. well one tries... !

mr pg

2,067 posts

235 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Although the geo was checked, it may just mean it's within tolerance, but not that corners are set to up the same settings. Do you have the measurements, and if so how do they compare to each other. The geo can be optimised for different driving characteristics, but still kept within factory tols.

6C4GTS

5,186 posts

208 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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mr pg said:
Although the geo was checked, it may just mean it's within tolerance, but not that corners are set to up the same settings. Do you have the measurements, and if so how do they compare to each other. The geo can be optimised for different driving characteristics, but still kept within factory tols.
This.
Had my 6 monthly geo check yesterday.
The factory tolerances are quite wide and you can do a lot of adjustment and stay within spec.
Your tyre wear indicates a little too much negative camber/toe for your driving.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

237 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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My 996 C4S rears go every 5-6k miles and i dont really hoon. All motorway driving. Fronts last at least double.

thetubbster

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29 posts

204 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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thanks guys very helpful

Rockster

1,515 posts

190 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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thetubbster said:
thanks guys very helpful
Too much toe.

It is toe, toe and toe that causes inside tire wear. Not camber. Look at the rear of a Porsche going down the road and its rear tires are flat on the ground.

Alignment settings are goofy looking on paper and goofy looking when the car is stationary because the alignment only really make sense when the car is moving.

With good alignment with reasonable amount of toe and I have managed nearly 23K miles out of a set of rear tires on my Turbo. I get an easy 20K or more miles out the rear tires on my Boxster, too.

Front tires easily last twice as long but by 40K miles are getting noisy and hard/slick so I replace both rears at 20K then all 4 tires at 40K miles.

Jim1556

1,838 posts

186 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Rockster said:
Too much toe.

It is toe, toe and toe that causes inside tire wear. Not camber. Look at the rear of a Porsche going down the road and its rear tires are flat on the ground.

Alignment settings are goofy looking on paper and goofy looking when the car is stationary because the alignment only really make sense when the car is moving.

With good alignment with reasonable amount of toe and I have managed nearly 23K miles out of a set of rear tires on my Turbo. I get an easy 20K or more miles out the rear tires on my Boxster, too.

Front tires easily last twice as long but by 40K miles are getting noisy and hard/slick so I replace both rears at 20K then all 4 tires at 40K miles.
You're clearly not driving it correctly! wink

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Under negative camber toe in and toe out scrub the inner shoulder - and with positive camber toe scrubs outer shoulder.
Simples!

uknick

1,065 posts

214 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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OP, funny you should experience this after an alignment at Reading OPC.

They did my Cayman last year. After 5k miles both front tyres, new ones fitted just before they did the alignment, were completely bald on the inside. Outsides had barely been touched.

I know the inside edge does wear quicker, but to completely scrub a set after 5k of only road driving!!

I took it back and was told I must have hit a pothole as the front settings were well out again. I am prepared to swear on my life I never hit a pot hole with both front tyres, or numerous potholes on either side of the car.

They did the alignment again for free, but I had to buy new tyres. I've now done nearly 10k since the alignment and the fronts are wearing as expected. Go figure!!