Falken FK453's on a 997.1 C2
Falken FK453's on a 997.1 C2
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orinoco13

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28 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Has anyone got any experience of these tyres on a C2 with the 19" crabclaws. Need new rubber but don't need new rubber prices.....
Any advice welcome.
Thanks.

Col.

jackwood

2,968 posts

238 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Hi,

I've been running a set on my 996 GT3 for the last few months.

Positives: they are very well priced. They offer decent levels of grip in warmer weather (wet and dry). They give a very compliant ride and aren't noisy.
Negatives: they do not feel as sharp as the Michelin PS2's in terms of steering response. Their performance drops off quite sharply as outside temps approach freezing. More-so than the PS2's

As another comparator, I've recently replaced Conti 5P's on my Merc C63 with the much cheaper Kuhmo Ecsta LE Sport. They offer really sharp handling and masses of grip in all conditions, but have quite a stiff construction which means the ride is slightly more harsh than it was on the Conti's.

Hope that helps.

Jack

sundayjumper

531 posts

312 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Interesting... I've been using their predecessor, the FK452, on my 996 and they took aaaaages to bed in. The back end felt really squishy for the first couple of thousand miles. Upping the pressures helped a touch but then they started to wear too fast in the centre so I had to let them down again and put up with it.

I'm due new tyres in the new year, so I might try the 453s. If they work well on a GT3 they should be fine for my use !

jackwood

2,968 posts

238 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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sundayjumper said:
Interesting... I've been using their predecessor, the FK452, on my 996 and they took aaaaages to bed in. The back end felt really squishy for the first couple of thousand miles. Upping the pressures helped a touch but then they started to wear too fast in the centre so I had to let them down again and put up with it.

I'm due new tyres in the new year, so I might try the 453s. If they work well on a GT3 they should be fine for my use !
Interesting you should say that, as mine felt squishy at the rear too, like the sidewall was flexing or the tread block flexing. It was getting less and less as the miles went on. It felt strange to start with, but regardless of the feel, they still gripped very well. I switched back to a part worn set of PS2's and the feeling wasn't there at all. Definitely something in the construction of the Falken.

orinoco13

Original Poster:

28 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Thanks for the replys, I'll have a look at the kumhos too, they sound pretty good. Cheers.

orinoco13

Original Poster:

28 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Thanks for the replys, I'll have a look at the kumhos too, they sound pretty good. Cheers.

FarQue

2,339 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Going back to the 'squishy' thing and FK452 construction: last time I had some 452's fitted (19") the fitter remarked at how stiff the sidewalls were - from a 'fitting' perspective.

Shurv

1,024 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Why are you guys even contemplating running budget tyres on a top level sports car? Madness.No wonder they don't feel right.If you can't afford to run the car, get something else.Your tyres are the only thing separating you from the hedge or hospital, especially in a high powered sports car,you should always get the very best.In case you're wondering, I used to work for a tyre manufacturer.

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Shurv said:
Why are you guys even contemplating running budget tyres on a top level sports car? Madness.No wonder they don't feel right.If you can't afford to run the car, get something else.Your tyres are the only thing separating you from the hedge or hospital, especially in a high powered sports car,you should always get the very best.In case you're wondering, I used to work for a tyre manufacturer.
Have you got Michelin Super Sports on yours?

Rollcage

11,345 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Falken and Kumho are hardly budget tyres. Both are pretty well respected brands that offer decent performance for the money.

It's hardly the same as running the car on Wanlis!

Munter

31,331 posts

271 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Rollcage said:
Falken and Kumho are hardly budget tyres. Both are pretty well respected brands that offer decent performance for the money.

It's hardly the same as running the car on Wanlis!
Oh come on what idiot would fit Falkens to a porsche...hehe

orinoco13

Original Poster:

28 posts

170 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Thanks for your factual and informative reply Shurv.

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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My experience with the above tyres (although not on the Porsche - always had Contis on that) are that the Kuhmos are reasonable, but can let go in the wet quite quickly.
Falkens achieve fairly decent levels of grip but seem to do so at the expense of wear (possibly a softer compound?).

(I've been through a few sets of the above)

jimmyone

954 posts

172 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Check with your insurance company.
it may be void in an accident if youve fitted " economy" tyres

Rollcage

11,345 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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jimmyone said:
Check with your insurance company.
it may be void in an accident if youve fitted " economy" tyres
Appropriate size, speed and load rating is all they need to be. Price doesn't come in to it.

jimmyone

954 posts

172 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Rollcage said:
Appropriate size, speed and load rating is all they need to be. Price doesn't come in to it.
Can only speak from experience.
i had a Jag, and was told the Dynamic Stability Control was designed using Pirrelli Zeros. , and my insurance could be void if i was involved in an accident where tyres were a factor in the accident.
obviously i did research , and decided to go for the Pirellis .
Doesnt seem worth the risk.
whats the point of having a £50k car on "Cheap " tyres ?

GentlePersuasion

26,140 posts

244 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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jimmyone said:
Check with your insurance company.
it may be void in an accident if youve fitted " economy" tyres

Rollcage

11,345 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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jimmyone said:
Rollcage said:
Appropriate size, speed and load rating is all they need to be. Price doesn't come in to it.
Can only speak from experience.
i had a Jag, and was told the Dynamic Stability Control was designed using Pirrelli Zeros. , and my insurance could be void if i was involved in an accident where tyres were a factor in the accident.
obviously i did research , and decided to go for the Pirellis .
Doesnt seem worth the risk.
whats the point of having a £50k car on "Cheap " tyres ?
I'll bet it was a dealer telling you that, as they sold you the P Zeros!


GentlePersuasion

26,140 posts

244 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Shurv said:
Why are you guys even contemplating running budget tyres on a top level sports car? Madness.No wonder they don't feel right.If you can't afford to run the car, get something else.Your tyres are the only thing separating you from the hedge or hospital, especially in a high powered sports car,you should always get the very best.In case you're wondering, I used to work for a tyre manufacturer.
Jesus wept. I've never heard such sanctimonious ste in all my life!

Tell me then, Marcus: how do these 'lesser' tyre manufacturers pass stringent quality and safety tests in order that they be allowed to sell tyres in the EU amongst other parts of the developed world?

Utter drivel.

jimmyone

954 posts

172 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Rollcage said:
I'll bet it was a dealer telling you that, as they sold you the P Zeros!
No, did my research.
Checked with Main dealer, insurance company, and independent tyre dealer
then made my own decision.teacher