Driver training - 911
Discussion
Anyone have any suggestions for instructors based in Scotland?
I know of the Knockhill instruction in your own car but is there any others out there that would do road based stuff too?
I have the basics in my head buit i'd like to get the professional line for myself and my old man so we can learn to drive a rear engined car properly.
So any suggestions or experience in the above would be most welcome.
Cheers,
I know of the Knockhill instruction in your own car but is there any others out there that would do road based stuff too?
I have the basics in my head buit i'd like to get the professional line for myself and my old man so we can learn to drive a rear engined car properly.
So any suggestions or experience in the above would be most welcome.
Cheers,
If you are happy crossing the border: http://www.porsche.com/silverstone/en/experience/y...
I got my wife a YouDrive Porsche experience when she got the 911 (964).
The day itself was very good with the most benefit coming from the Hill and the Kick Plate (sure you will see video's on the website). We certainly came to respect the 964 more as once we were on the Kick Plat you realised that you need to catch the back of the 911 very quickly before the rear mass starts propelling you round.
Luckily Sandra came back saying that the test drive in the new 991 around the Porsche circuit was the most boring part of the day as she much preferred her 964 (which was a relief).
If you want any more info then give me a shout.
Cheers
George
The day itself was very good with the most benefit coming from the Hill and the Kick Plate (sure you will see video's on the website). We certainly came to respect the 964 more as once we were on the Kick Plat you realised that you need to catch the back of the 911 very quickly before the rear mass starts propelling you round.
Luckily Sandra came back saying that the test drive in the new 991 around the Porsche circuit was the most boring part of the day as she much preferred her 964 (which was a relief).
If you want any more info then give me a shout.
Cheers
George
Cross posted from the Porsche site Olie. I think this guy could teach us a thing or two http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pqcXxfpw2I&fea...
The Porsche facility at Silverstone is well worth a trip, Ollie. You can do track/road training anywhere, but their ice hill, kick plate and low friction section all being right beside the track mean that the instructors can cover a hell of a lot of ‘on the grip limit’ situations in a short time.
Maybe check out my friend Mike too - http://marotprodriving.com
He’s in the North (ish) of England and I’ve been hearing very good reports. He’ll take you out on track for tuition or on public roads, or a combination of both. Pretty much a bespoke service - just drop him a line and have a chat about what you want to learn. He knows 911s inside out.
Maybe check out my friend Mike too - http://marotprodriving.com
He’s in the North (ish) of England and I’ve been hearing very good reports. He’ll take you out on track for tuition or on public roads, or a combination of both. Pretty much a bespoke service - just drop him a line and have a chat about what you want to learn. He knows 911s inside out.
The Porsche Silverstone place is great fun, but is of limited benefit.
These were my thoughts following my session (which was booked for similar reasons to yourself)
For example, when we were doing the ice hill and the kick plate, there were another 2 (or 3) cars also wanting to do that, so it was taken in turns.
Basic maths dictates that if there are 3 cars involved the maximum time you would be spending on it would only be a third, but in reality (with manoevring etc taken into account) it was less than this.
And less time still if there were 3 cars and not 2 (which was the case).
The other downside was that I wanted to spend some time (perhaps a solid 10 minutes) right at the start of the session on the low grip circles (just to get a feel for the handling, weight transfer of the car etc), but this isn't possible as, for some stupid reason, they've designed the low grip handling track so that it crosses these circles, and therefore if you stay on the circles, you block the low grip circuit.....
(see middle of picture)
p.s. I never did go back in the 996t.
These were my thoughts following my session (which was booked for similar reasons to yourself)
monthefish said:
I found mine so-so.
The place itself was excellent (and I will spend my first million on developing one exactly like it on my estate); the facilities were very slick and the kick plate, ice hill and low friction circuit were brilliant (I could have spend days on there). Most of the staff were very helpful but there were one or two that came across a bit 'snooty'.
Where it really went wrong was with the coaching, which I would describe as average at best. As most of them probably are, the 'instructor' was a part-time/weekend racer, who undoubtedly had some skills (although did manage to spin the car himself whilst demonstrating how it should be done), however he was by no means a master of his art and didn't even have a very good teaching style. (Perhaps we just didn't 'gel')
The other downside was that there seemd to be too many other cars using the facility at the same time, which meant that, although I spent most of the time in the driving seat of the car, approximately 40% of that time was sat queuing waiting for others to get out of the way, and to really master these things, you need to get back on straight away.
I went to this experience fully planning to take my own 996t down to one of the YouDrive events later this year, but based on my experience, I don't think I will now. I think there are similar facilites (although perhaps not as slick) at the Prodrive place, so will likely take it there instead.
The place itself was excellent (and I will spend my first million on developing one exactly like it on my estate); the facilities were very slick and the kick plate, ice hill and low friction circuit were brilliant (I could have spend days on there). Most of the staff were very helpful but there were one or two that came across a bit 'snooty'.
Where it really went wrong was with the coaching, which I would describe as average at best. As most of them probably are, the 'instructor' was a part-time/weekend racer, who undoubtedly had some skills (although did manage to spin the car himself whilst demonstrating how it should be done), however he was by no means a master of his art and didn't even have a very good teaching style. (Perhaps we just didn't 'gel')
The other downside was that there seemd to be too many other cars using the facility at the same time, which meant that, although I spent most of the time in the driving seat of the car, approximately 40% of that time was sat queuing waiting for others to get out of the way, and to really master these things, you need to get back on straight away.
I went to this experience fully planning to take my own 996t down to one of the YouDrive events later this year, but based on my experience, I don't think I will now. I think there are similar facilites (although perhaps not as slick) at the Prodrive place, so will likely take it there instead.
monthefish said:
Bluey Green said:
So how much of the 90 minutes `driving' is actually queuing then? I'm about to book one for my birthday in March.
Yes, in my case it was quite a lot. Between 30 and 40% overall.For example, when we were doing the ice hill and the kick plate, there were another 2 (or 3) cars also wanting to do that, so it was taken in turns.
Basic maths dictates that if there are 3 cars involved the maximum time you would be spending on it would only be a third, but in reality (with manoevring etc taken into account) it was less than this.
And less time still if there were 3 cars and not 2 (which was the case).
The other downside was that I wanted to spend some time (perhaps a solid 10 minutes) right at the start of the session on the low grip circles (just to get a feel for the handling, weight transfer of the car etc), but this isn't possible as, for some stupid reason, they've designed the low grip handling track so that it crosses these circles, and therefore if you stay on the circles, you block the low grip circuit.....
(see middle of picture)
Edited by monthefish on Thursday 9th May 10:30
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