Pirelli Trofeo R's on a GT3
Pirelli Trofeo R's on a GT3
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jackwood

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2,969 posts

238 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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So has anyone here actually tried the Pirelli Trofeo or Trofeo R on a GT3 here?

Pretty excited to try these out. I don't know anyone that has firsthand experience with them but the tyre reviews from the continent seem to rate them very highly.

Not sure why they are so hard to get hold of though, or why so few people use them as a viable alternative to the Cup tyre. Interested to hear people's thoughts.

They do look bloody good though. A big part of me wishes that they painted the logos in white or yellow to give them that F1/P1 look. Might even give it a go myself with some tyre paints.






keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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top blagger smile

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

268 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Can't believe how deep the tread blocks are !, that's a surprise for a track focused tyre.

Assume these are better on track than the regular Trofeos ?

How much for a set if you don't mind me asking ?

G.

jackwood

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2,969 posts

238 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Glenn, you'd have to assume they are better, but not had any experience with Trofeo's, so don't know, and not actually fitted them yet. Have you heard anything about Trofeo's on track?

I'll get the micrometer on the depth. They do look deeper in the photos.

Edit: sorry forgot to add, price is pretty comparable to Cups.

cptsideways

13,884 posts

282 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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I think you will find these exceptionally soft, good for wet days

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

268 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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jackwood said:
Glenn, you'd have to assume they are better, but not had any experience with Trofeo's, so don't know, and not actually fitted them yet. Have you heard anything about Trofeo's on track?

I'll get the micrometer on the depth. They do look deeper in the photos.

Edit: sorry forgot to add, price is pretty comparable to Cups.
Heard some mixed reports really. As said, they're very soft, especially the sidewalls, they were alarmingly flexible.

Extra depth bodes well for longevity if nothing else !

G.

cptsideways

13,884 posts

282 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Glenn McMenamin said:
Extra depth bodes well for longevity if nothing else !

G.
Not on a tyre used for dry track use, which is why racers on road tyres shave their tyres down to a few mm. They last longer.

These are a wet tyre iirc

thegoose

8,077 posts

240 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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One of the Hartech technicians thought the same about the Pirelli script on our new slicks, so he set about painting them silver, although I think he may have regretted it after doing 30-odd of them!!

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

268 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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cptsideways said:
Not on a tyre used for dry track use, which is why racers on road tyres shave their tyres down to a few mm. They last longer.

These are a wet tyre iirc
For sure. I meant on the road.

G.

jackwood

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2,969 posts

238 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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In this test, on a 911, it seems to come out pretty good.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2012-Sport-Au...

Quite interesting that the R888, which is often considered as a better wet weather tyre than a Cup, was over 20 seconds off the pace in the wet handling.

Will be very interesting to see how they work out.

Edited by jackwood on Saturday 20th April 10:13

Far Cough

2,481 posts

198 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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jackwood said:
Not sure why they are so hard to get hold of though, or why so few people use them as a viable alternative to the Cup tyre. Interested to hear people's thoughts.
The Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyre is cheaper , easier to get hold of and by all accounts 99% like a cup tyre with better wet grip and deeper tread. The Trofeo didnt even make it onto the list when new tyres were needed but it will be interesting to hear how you rate them.

agtlaw

7,404 posts

236 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Toyo R888
Misc: 50.8 kgs

Continental ContiForceContact
Misc: 41.8 kgs

wow, that's a massive difference.

Martian O

2,734 posts

192 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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agtlaw said:
Toyo R888
Misc: 50.8 kgs

Continental ContiForceContact
Misc: 41.8 kgs

wow, that's a massive difference.
9Kg difference between each tyre, or am I missing something here? confused

agtlaw

7,404 posts

236 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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a set of 4

Cunno

511 posts

187 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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I have them on my 997 GT3 at present, and like them. Wear is similar to cups. When they first hit the market I believe the compound was very soft which lead to concerns over wear, but Pirelli then made some changes to improve this. Believe that's what I read on rennlist anyway.

I've done 3 TDs so far Anglesey, and Donington twice. Tyres still have 2 - 3mm left so expect to get 4-5 TDs. Which is roughly the same as cups. Grip wise I think they are slightly better than cups, but we are talking small % . Wet grip is a lot better. Driving to the track on a wet morning I was very surprised how well they coped with stand water, unlike cup where you tend to hope and pray that you get through it.
Mine cost about 20% more than cups, so if your have a cheap supplier let us know, as I would use the trofeo again if the price was right.

Jon

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

244 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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When the Trofeo launched they were around 50% more expensive than Michelin Cups and by all reports of the time no better in terms of performance. They consequently didn't get any interest from the market and have been largely ignored since, with only very few people running them. They have since made them cheaper and have revised them, but unless they got to a point where they were both cheaper and better than cups I really don't see much scope for people switching to them. Personally I avoid Pirellis simply due to disillusionment over the debacle that is the availability of the N rated Corsa over the last 5 or so years (for all flavours of GT3 fitment) - I simply have no faith in the brand as a consequence.

Frankly I would be more interested to hear about the latest Dunlops... ?

majordad

3,631 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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Disco, good point, especially since the Dunlops are Tyre of choice on the 991 GT3.

Gibbo205

3,572 posts

237 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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Those who have or had Pirelli Corsa on their GT3 what cold pressures did you use and hot for track?

majordad

3,631 posts

227 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2013
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I had them, I used 35 lbs hot all round.

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2013
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36r 33f.

Hot.