Coast to Coast in a day
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I've signed up to Coast to Coast in a day on the 29th June as a personal challenge and to raise a little bit of money for charity. I need to start thinking about a training plan for the next 11 weeks. The longest ride I have completed was 65 miles in November and I've only got back riding two weeks ago after being knocked off back in December. Did 25 miles today without breaking into to a sweat but unsure whether I should jump straight back into 60 miles. I've not come close to my PR's on Strava so I know I've lost some fitness.
I've come up with what I believe is the best plan of just adding 10 miles to each Saturday ride. But what about training during the week? I have a turbo trainer and also a 5% gradient hill over 0.7 miles nearby, so I have some options. Coast to coast is 150 miles with roughly 4500M of ascent. The PH ride will be roughly half way through training so should be a good marker.
I need to keep injury free so weary about going to mad and training to hard, any advice welcome.
I've come up with what I believe is the best plan of just adding 10 miles to each Saturday ride. But what about training during the week? I have a turbo trainer and also a 5% gradient hill over 0.7 miles nearby, so I have some options. Coast to coast is 150 miles with roughly 4500M of ascent. The PH ride will be roughly half way through training so should be a good marker.
I need to keep injury free so weary about going to mad and training to hard, any advice welcome.
Edited by TSCfree on Sunday 7th April 12:55
Jump straight back is my advice. The standard advice from audaxers is that the best training for long distance is long distances. Just get out on some long rides. You could do worse than sign up for a couple of 100kms and a 200km before this. That'll iron out any discomfort issues.
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We did C2C last year in a leisurly 4 days, St Bees to Robin Hoods bay.
I presume you're finishing in Sunderland.
The first bit in the Lakes has some thigh burners, so using the TT for interval type training wouldn't do any harm. But as already said, mile in the legs is going to be the best thing.
What time are you hoping for? Our very leasurly 185 mile route took us about 20 hours over the 4 days, but that is on MTB's with plently of stops to enjoy scenery and one off road section which took a lot longer than we expected it to
Enjoy it!
I presume you're finishing in Sunderland.
The first bit in the Lakes has some thigh burners, so using the TT for interval type training wouldn't do any harm. But as already said, mile in the legs is going to be the best thing.
What time are you hoping for? Our very leasurly 185 mile route took us about 20 hours over the 4 days, but that is on MTB's with plently of stops to enjoy scenery and one off road section which took a lot longer than we expected it to
Enjoy it!
meters, don't need to make it any harder!CoolC said:
We did C2C last year in a leisurly 4 days, St Bees to Robin Hoods bay.
I presume you're finishing in Sunderland.
The first bit in the Lakes has some thigh burners, so using the TT for interval type training wouldn't do any harm. But as already said, mile in the legs is going to be the best thing.
What time are you hoping for? Our very leasurly 185 mile route took us about 20 hours over the 4 days, but that is on MTB's with plently of stops to enjoy scenery and one off road section which took a lot longer than we expected it to
Enjoy it!
Seascale to Whitby. To be honest I'll be happy to just to finish it and I'll be taking lights just in case! although I'd like to aim for around 13 - 14 Hrs.I presume you're finishing in Sunderland.
The first bit in the Lakes has some thigh burners, so using the TT for interval type training wouldn't do any harm. But as already said, mile in the legs is going to be the best thing.
What time are you hoping for? Our very leasurly 185 mile route took us about 20 hours over the 4 days, but that is on MTB's with plently of stops to enjoy scenery and one off road section which took a lot longer than we expected it to
Enjoy it!
As we read/type I am helping a friend at work achieve the same ride. He had not riden a bike since he was a teenager and is now 40 ish. anyway he is now capable of 50 miles ok but he has not been any further than the 50 so needs to get out on a few long rides soon,
So far he has improve his riding technique, learnt about nutrition, recovery, and most importantly rule 5 which is now imbedded in his mind and can't get it out of his head when on a bike.
As above the start will be steady for a few miles then into the proper hard climbs of the lake district easier for a few miles then over the Pennines then onto the run for the coast and down hill into Robin Hoods Bay.
I believe the hardest challenge lies from within coming from the inner chimp overcome this and the ride will be achievable.
This needs to be done for each person as an individual so you need someone who knows you to help with that.
Some club time trials for a bit of speed.
Some club runs for group riding skills.
Some long solo rides for endurance and a starting point for getting over the inner chimp.
Learn how you bod reacts to food on the move this is important to find out in time to have the right food on the day.
A quality pair of shorts you don't want a pair of cheap shorts on for 12 hours that have a pan scourer for a pad in them.
Depending where you live a ride over the lake district route may be a good idea again this should help with the mental preparation.
Paul.
So far he has improve his riding technique, learnt about nutrition, recovery, and most importantly rule 5 which is now imbedded in his mind and can't get it out of his head when on a bike.
As above the start will be steady for a few miles then into the proper hard climbs of the lake district easier for a few miles then over the Pennines then onto the run for the coast and down hill into Robin Hoods Bay.
I believe the hardest challenge lies from within coming from the inner chimp overcome this and the ride will be achievable.
This needs to be done for each person as an individual so you need someone who knows you to help with that.
Some club time trials for a bit of speed.
Some club runs for group riding skills.
Some long solo rides for endurance and a starting point for getting over the inner chimp.
Learn how you bod reacts to food on the move this is important to find out in time to have the right food on the day.
A quality pair of shorts you don't want a pair of cheap shorts on for 12 hours that have a pan scourer for a pad in them.
Depending where you live a ride over the lake district route may be a good idea again this should help with the mental preparation.
Paul.
agentnomad said:
I believe the hardest challenge lies from within coming from the inner chimp overcome this and the ride will be achievable.
This might be useful - http://www.rockettrides.com/?p=1744#more-1744I use mindfulness techniques and mantras for longer (400km and over) stuff. It's a long time on a bike, and your mind will go silly places if you let it. Last 200km of a 600km, both times I've been through it, don't seem like fun at the time. Mantras have definitely helped then. Some sensible ones are here - http://enduranceleader.com/articles/7-leadership-m...
Mine is "I can piss this[200km and down in 50km chunks]"
agentnomad said:
As we read/type I am helping a friend at work achieve the same ride. He had not riden a bike since he was a teenager and is now 40 ish. anyway he is now capable of 50 miles ok but he has not been any further than the 50 so needs to get out on a few long rides soon,
So far he has improve his riding technique, learnt about nutrition, recovery, and most importantly rule 5 which is now imbedded in his mind and can't get it out of his head when on a bike.
As above the start will be steady for a few miles then into the proper hard climbs of the lake district easier for a few miles then over the Pennines then onto the run for the coast and down hill into Robin Hoods Bay.
I believe the hardest challenge lies from within coming from the inner chimp overcome this and the ride will be achievable.
This needs to be done for each person as an individual so you need someone who knows you to help with that.
Some club time trials for a bit of speed.
Some club runs for group riding skills.
Some long solo rides for endurance and a starting point for getting over the inner chimp.
Learn how you bod reacts to food on the move this is important to find out in time to have the right food on the day.
A quality pair of shorts you don't want a pair of cheap shorts on for 12 hours that have a pan scourer for a pad in them.
Depending where you live a ride over the lake district route may be a good idea again this should help with the mental preparation.
Paul.
Time Trails - Turbo Trainer checkSo far he has improve his riding technique, learnt about nutrition, recovery, and most importantly rule 5 which is now imbedded in his mind and can't get it out of his head when on a bike.
As above the start will be steady for a few miles then into the proper hard climbs of the lake district easier for a few miles then over the Pennines then onto the run for the coast and down hill into Robin Hoods Bay.
I believe the hardest challenge lies from within coming from the inner chimp overcome this and the ride will be achievable.
This needs to be done for each person as an individual so you need someone who knows you to help with that.
Some club time trials for a bit of speed.
Some club runs for group riding skills.
Some long solo rides for endurance and a starting point for getting over the inner chimp.
Learn how you bod reacts to food on the move this is important to find out in time to have the right food on the day.
A quality pair of shorts you don't want a pair of cheap shorts on for 12 hours that have a pan scourer for a pad in them.
Depending where you live a ride over the lake district route may be a good idea again this should help with the mental preparation.
Paul.
Club runs - Couple of Sportives check
Shorts - Santini Check - Chamois Cream??
Long chimp inhibiting rides - In Prog
I think you nailed it with the state of mind antics, rule 5 is a good place to start. Pablo's route through Wales looks tear inducing and mouth foaming with a Cat 2 climb, so that should be good prep.
DrMekon said:
This might be useful - http://www.rockettrides.com/?p=1744#more-1744
I use mindfulness techniques and mantras for longer (400km and over) stuff. It's a long time on a bike, and your mind will go silly places if you let it. Last 200km of a 600km, both times I've been through it, don't seem like fun at the time. Mantras have definitely helped then. Some sensible ones are here - http://enduranceleader.com/articles/7-leadership-m...
Mine is "I can piss this[200km and down in 50km chunks]"
Thanks for that. It's not something I'd even considered on the check list of preparation, but its obviously critical before you even get on the bike. I use mindfulness techniques and mantras for longer (400km and over) stuff. It's a long time on a bike, and your mind will go silly places if you let it. Last 200km of a 600km, both times I've been through it, don't seem like fun at the time. Mantras have definitely helped then. Some sensible ones are here - http://enduranceleader.com/articles/7-leadership-m...
Mine is "I can piss this[200km and down in 50km chunks]"
TSCfree said:
I've signed up to Coast to Coast in a day on the 29th June as a personal challenge and to raise a little bit of money for charity.
I'm doing the C2C also, some good advice here 
Not sure if you have logistics already sorted but my old an is doing the drive from Seascale to Whitby if you want bags etc taken I yesterday arrived in Paris after leaving London 24hrs before (256 miles). My longest ride prior to that was 150.
I'd offer 3 pieces of advice
1. Get your head right.- train in all weathers whether its little or long rides and stay mentally stable. If you can get to a bloodyminded" I'll never give up" mindset and work within your limitations- you'll get it done.
2. Kit- not the bike so much( although get the mechanics and fitting right) but clothing. Don't scrimp.
3. Eat. Eat. Eat
This is what got me here, mixed in with training of course but woulld be the points I'd focus on.
I'd offer 3 pieces of advice
1. Get your head right.- train in all weathers whether its little or long rides and stay mentally stable. If you can get to a bloodyminded" I'll never give up" mindset and work within your limitations- you'll get it done.
2. Kit- not the bike so much( although get the mechanics and fitting right) but clothing. Don't scrimp.
3. Eat. Eat. Eat
This is what got me here, mixed in with training of course but woulld be the points I'd focus on.
Was that with Lloyds of London? My son was on it as well. So impressed with all you guys
jonesey said:
I yesterday arrived in Paris after leaving London 24hrs before (256 miles). My longest ride prior to that was 150.
I'd offer 3 pieces of advice
1. Get your head right.- train in all weathers whether its little or long rides and stay mentally stable. If you can get to a bloodyminded" I'll never give up" mindset and work within your limitations- you'll get it done.
2. Kit- not the bike so much( although get the mechanics and fitting right) but clothing. Don't scrimp.
3. Eat. Eat. Eat
This is what got me here, mixed in with training of course but woulld be the points I'd focus on.
I'd offer 3 pieces of advice
1. Get your head right.- train in all weathers whether its little or long rides and stay mentally stable. If you can get to a bloodyminded" I'll never give up" mindset and work within your limitations- you'll get it done.
2. Kit- not the bike so much( although get the mechanics and fitting right) but clothing. Don't scrimp.
3. Eat. Eat. Eat
This is what got me here, mixed in with training of course but woulld be the points I'd focus on.
Was that with Lloyds of London? My son was on it as well. So impressed with all you guys
jonesey said:
I yesterday arrived in Paris after leaving London 24hrs before (256 miles). My longest ride prior to that was 150.
I'd offer 3 pieces of advice
1. Get your head right.- train in all weathers whether its little or long rides and stay mentally stable. If you can get to a bloodyminded" I'll never give up" mindset and work within your limitations- you'll get it done.
2. Kit- not the bike so much( although get the mechanics and fitting right) but clothing. Don't scrimp.
3. Eat. Eat. Eat
This is what got me here, mixed in with training of course but woulld be the points I'd focus on.
I'd offer 3 pieces of advice
1. Get your head right.- train in all weathers whether its little or long rides and stay mentally stable. If you can get to a bloodyminded" I'll never give up" mindset and work within your limitations- you'll get it done.
2. Kit- not the bike so much( although get the mechanics and fitting right) but clothing. Don't scrimp.
3. Eat. Eat. Eat
This is what got me here, mixed in with training of course but woulld be the points I'd focus on.
TSCfree said:
agentnomad said:
As we read/type I am helping a friend at work achieve the same ride. He had not riden a bike since he was a teenager and is now 40 ish. anyway he is now capable of 50 miles ok but he has not been any further than the 50 so needs to get out on a few long rides soon,
So far he has improve his riding technique, learnt about nutrition, recovery, and most importantly rule 5 which is now imbedded in his mind and can't get it out of his head when on a bike.
As above the start will be steady for a few miles then into the proper hard climbs of the lake district easier for a few miles then over the Pennines then onto the run for the coast and down hill into Robin Hoods Bay.
I believe the hardest challenge lies from within coming from the inner chimp overcome this and the ride will be achievable.
This needs to be done for each person as an individual so you need someone who knows you to help with that.
Some club time trials for a bit of speed.
Some club runs for group riding skills.
Some long solo rides for endurance and a starting point for getting over the inner chimp.
Learn how you bod reacts to food on the move this is important to find out in time to have the right food on the day.
A quality pair of shorts you don't want a pair of cheap shorts on for 12 hours that have a pan scourer for a pad in them.
Depending where you live a ride over the lake district route may be a good idea again this should help with the mental preparation.
Paul.
Time Trails - Turbo Trainer checkSo far he has improve his riding technique, learnt about nutrition, recovery, and most importantly rule 5 which is now imbedded in his mind and can't get it out of his head when on a bike.
As above the start will be steady for a few miles then into the proper hard climbs of the lake district easier for a few miles then over the Pennines then onto the run for the coast and down hill into Robin Hoods Bay.
I believe the hardest challenge lies from within coming from the inner chimp overcome this and the ride will be achievable.
This needs to be done for each person as an individual so you need someone who knows you to help with that.
Some club time trials for a bit of speed.
Some club runs for group riding skills.
Some long solo rides for endurance and a starting point for getting over the inner chimp.
Learn how you bod reacts to food on the move this is important to find out in time to have the right food on the day.
A quality pair of shorts you don't want a pair of cheap shorts on for 12 hours that have a pan scourer for a pad in them.
Depending where you live a ride over the lake district route may be a good idea again this should help with the mental preparation.
Paul.
Club runs - Couple of Sportives check
Shorts - Santini Check - Chamois Cream??
Long chimp inhibiting rides - In Prog
I think you nailed it with the state of mind antics, rule 5 is a good place to start. Pablo's route through Wales looks tear inducing and mouth foaming with a Cat 2 climb, so that should be good prep.
As someone has also said and I have done this with my work friend train no matter the weather as it could be horrid in June and the inner chimp will be silent if you have trained in worse weather
I rode to work last year almost every day [drove when it was my turn in the car share once a week] and when we had loads of rain and the roads where holding 1" of water the hardest part was pulling the cycling shorts on in the bedroom knowing what was the other the side of the bedroom window, rain soaked roads once out on the bike it is just another wet ride and the chimp was quiet
The other thing to consider is can you get started after a cafe stop I did this with my friend as he had said that his little group where planning loads of butte stops, after sitting in the cafe and then getting cold and stiff he has changed his mind, and now thinks food should be had on the move.
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