First run of 2013, ends on the back of a flat bed!
First run of 2013, ends on the back of a flat bed!
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stourbridges2tvr

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395 posts

239 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Oh dear well that could have gone better. Decided to go out for a spin, first time in probably 5/6 months, car started fine, tyres? Check. Oil, check. Water, check.

All looking good I got £40 quids worth of shells finest and off i went. What a dream, sounded great, ran beautifully all gauges reading right through the familiar condensation, 40-50 miles went by , an hour or so flew it was time to head home.

Really pushing on towards home, left turn,8 or so miles left, nothing, nada!

Coasted in to the side of a country lane, several attempts, it would turn over but nothing else. I suspect fuel pump as I couldn't hear the customary ticking on ignition.

So over to the collective wisdom of you guys, what to check? East fix? Thanks in advance all.

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Fuel pump fuse or relay? Yellow connector? (I had a similar experience a few years ago).

I'll be getting mine out later in the week so fingers crossed smile

Scoobimax

1,892 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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No wisdom from me I'm afraid, just my commiserations as exactly the same happened to me exactly a month ago to the day.

First run of the year and ended on a flatbed journey home - still fixing things as the failure (master clutch cylinder) turned in to several more jobs (some unrelated to the clutch cylinders) and more £££'s than I expected, but last job being done now.

Hope you're fixed soon and back on the road where the S belongs.

Max

swimmer27

482 posts

211 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Please don't shoot me down as I understand everyones circumstances are different but leaving any vehicle for months on end causes no end of problems.
The Suzuki motorbike I purchased had sat unused for a year started to flood the engine so once stripped the fuel had gone into a varnish type state plus the rubbers on the needle valves had gone hard.

My S2 passed the 100,000 mile mark a long time ago as I try and make the effort to use it most weekends.
I choose not to sorn it during the winter months as its insured for 12 months, mot'd for 12 months etc.

Watch this space something will fail now!

Getting back on topic several owners with your symptoms have run a direct live to the fuel pump from a power pack or direct from the battery which by-passes the relay after checking the fuse.
You might be lucky and find the pump terminals just need a clean.

Oldred_V8S

3,764 posts

267 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Don't forget to check both metal topped relays. One is the fuel pump relay the other is the ECU relay, the failure of either will stop the pump running.

Cycle the ignition on and off. If you can hear the idle control valve moving the ECU relay is OK.

phillpot

17,509 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Oldred_V8S said:
Don't forget to check both metal topped relays.
Pump relay is yellow and ecu is small brown relay, both plastic (on mine), hanging around "loose" under the glovebox with the ecu.

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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swimmer27 said:
but leaving any vehicle for months on end causes no end of problems.
Agree totally, if you think back to this time last year, and the year before that, and the year before that.......................etc etc

Failure or breakdown when the car is returned to use, almost as if its complaining at being ignored all winter. madfuriousrageevilblah

Hi Matt, havent heard from you for a while. My guess id yellow connector, give that a check

Norman

S2Mike

3,065 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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My Two Penneth,
I second the relay or connectors being worth a disconnect shake or tap and refit, idea.!
After a sticking on fuel pump, I was directed by the knowledge on here to check the aforementioned, relays and found them full of water and shorting out.
A clean and dry out and all appears fine, but as recommended I will be carrying spares.

stourbridges2tvr

Original Poster:

395 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Hi all thanks for your comments, i haven't had chance to check anything out yet what with being at work and everything.

Also agree with the comments regarding use, i keep it taxed and tested 12 months a year, and have always taken it out at the very least every 2 months, in between it is usually started, moved about on the drive and put back. However we all know about the last 6 months weather, and a new motorbike meant i had to run that in instead.

I don't think its the yellow connector, as i had that done few years ago, and if i remember correctly that cuts all ignition when it goes, i have turnover, but it just wont cough into life, there's also no "tick" from the fuel pump.

Fuses i can handle, but after that, relays and other electrickery is voodoo to me.! Mine is v low milage 35K, so its always been a bit of a garage queen, but how much do you think it may cost to take to an auto electricians and have it rewired?


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PS Hi Norm, busy with family/work etc also see comments re new bike, trying to put 600 miles on that over nov/dec/jan has been a nightmare! But im always about....lurking!

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Before you go writing a blank cheque to an auto electrician it might be worth seeing if you have any S owners near you who might be able to pop over and have a poke around for you. We’ve all had these sorts of issues and usually they can be sorted out fairly easily because we know where to look. When this happened to me I gave it a bit of thought and when I realised the fuel pump wasn’t priming the first thing I checked was the fuse. As I’d only had the car a couple of weeks, finding the bloody fuse in the first place was the biggest problem! Getting all the spaghetti back behind the glove box was the second. Oh how I laughed! This little problem was the start of a very steep TVR learning curve.

S2Mike

3,065 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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A rewire would be hugely expensive and probably unnecessary.
The two relays in the passenger footwell, one yellow/orange and a brown plastic or possibly gold/silver ish metal small squarish relays
( 2 inch or so square ) just plug into blocks dangling on the end of wires, should only plug in one way round but to be sure mark them before pulling apart, a shake or light tap then refit.
With a little luck Bingo. !

stourbridges2tvr

Original Poster:

395 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Oh, the rewiring thing was just an idle thought. Wiring does go brittle with age and can be a big factor regards unreliability. Lots of the comments on here bare that out.

I had a 3 cylinder motorbike rewired recently, and it wasn't stupidly expensive, well worth it for the reliability peace of mind IMHO and thought it may be worth it rather than patching things up piece meal as they fail.

JustAl

117 posts

169 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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stourbridges2tvr said:
I had a 3 cylinder motorbike rewired recently, and it wasn't stupidly expensive, well worth it for the reliability peace of mind IMHO and thought it may be worth it rather than patching things up piece meal as they fail.
A Laverda buy any chance.


stourbridges2tvr

Original Poster:

395 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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No, was a Kawasaki, 2 stroke triple.

stourbridges2tvr

Original Poster:

395 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th April 2013
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Now back on the road. It was the fuel pump, and the forecast looks set to improve, looking forward to the weekend!

Griffinr

1,017 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th April 2013
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stourbridges2tvr said:
Now back on the road. It was the fuel pump, and the forecast looks set to improve, looking forward to the weekend!
Might see you around then. driving
Stourbridges other TVR.
Rob.

glenrobbo

40,461 posts

179 months

Thursday 11th April 2013
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Griffinr said:
stourbridges2tvr said:
Now back on the road. It was the fuel pump, and the forecast looks set to improve, looking forward to the weekend!
Might see you around then. driving
Stourbridges other TVR.
Rob.
How about S Club camping weekend at Barn Farm, Birchover 17 - 19 May, with scenic run & lunch on Sat 18th?
Good time guaranteed, check out the S Events Wiki & get your names down.
Capped at 25 peeps max.
MIMO.