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Jimbo.

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4,220 posts

218 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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So, Flanders...

Months of training.
£50-odd on the entry and finish->startline transfer.
£100 on the ferry.
£30 on insurance.
£300 on wheels.
£100 on tyres.

...and with less than a week to go, from nowhere...BOOM! Along comes what I believe to be runners knee. Aches, pains, popping and grinding. Not good.

Given there's no time for specific workouts, physio etc...will rest and rest alone ease/fix it? frown

gazza285

11,161 posts

237 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Sodium diclofenac is your friend, ask your doctor.

Try shifting your position, especially moving the cleats back in relation to your foot to relieve pressure on your calf muscles.

Lower gears / higher cadence will help as well.

Take it easy for a few days, keep the joint moving, but not under too much stress.



Jimbo.

Original Poster:

4,220 posts

218 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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gazza285 said:
Sodium diclofenac is your friend, ask your doctor.

Try shifting your position, especially moving the cleats back in relation to your foot to relieve pressure on your calf muscles.

Lower gears / higher cadence will help as well.

Take it easy for a few days, keep the joint moving, but not under too much stress.
Thanks: got a pile of said drug somewhere from an op last year. It's goooooood stuff!

re. cadence: spinner already! Usually spin along at 100rpm...

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

239 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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I'm still new to this cycling lark, and still in the process of getting the bike set up right. The other day, I raised my seat slightly and biked to work as normal. However, I soon started hearing a rather annoying rattling/creaking/popping sound, which I assumed was something on the bike, except it didn't sound very mechanical and it stopped as soon as I looked down.

I eventually traced the noise to my left knee. No pain or anything, just noise. I dislocated the kneecap a couple of years ago, so I suppose it's something to do with that. I raised the seat another 5mm, and it's stopped doing it.

Odd.

Magic919

14,500 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Bit of RICE couldn't harm.

jshell

12,078 posts

234 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Cleats mildly out of position killed my knees at one time!

Matt_N

9,035 posts

231 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Yeh get some anti inflammatories down you and R.I.C.E.

I tweaked my right knee 3 weekends ago now due to new shoes and pedals not being set up properly for me and I'm still having a slight niggle.

I've since been for a bike fit and made a few changes so I'm hoping that I'll be ok when I get back on the bike this weekend.

This is quite a useful article and is basically what's in the latest Cycling Plus Ride Fit magazine:

http://www.bikeradar.com/fitness/article/take-care...




DrMekon

2,493 posts

245 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Rest then lots of ibuprofen rub and tablets sufficient?

Vladimir

6,917 posts

187 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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My knee and hip blew up a week before a tri. Some ultrasound and intensive physio (which really hurt!!) and I was fine. Is it possible to find similar?

Jimbo.

Original Poster:

4,220 posts

218 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Many thanks, all smile

The pain is bang in the centre of my knee, seemingly under the kneecap. That, and the clunking/clicking/grinding made me think it's runners knee, although I stres that I'm no runner nor physio, doctor etc.

Anyway, my cleats have been set for the past 18 months, after a period of ITB problems. Trial-and-error combined with some Superfeet inserts seemed to do the trick, and until this week, I'd had no problems since (several thousand Kms later). My riding position was also set "just so" for the past year, although I did inadvertently ride with too low a saddle after things slipped about a month ago. 'twas only a couple of hundred Kms or so.

With no time for a visit to the docs, physio etc, I've resorted to (yet more) rest and the foam rollers. I'll see how it goes this week!

I'm beginning to think I may have hit it too hard, too soon after an extended winter lay-off (flu, snow, self-impossed rest). That, and reverting to commuting on my geared-for-Essex singlespeed. Bodes well for Belgium frown

Edited by Jimbo. on Monday 25th March 21:25

castex

5,171 posts

302 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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OMG Matt N that is awesome, thank you for posting!

crisisjez

9,209 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Jimbo. said:
Many thanks, all smile

The pain is bang in the centre of my knee, seemingly under the kneecap. That, and the clunking/clicking/grinding made me think it's runners knee, although I stres that I'm no runner nor physio, doctor etc.

Anyway, my cleats have been set for the past 18 months, after a period of ITB problems. Trial-and-error combined with some Superfeet inserts seemed to do the trick, and until this week, I'd had no problems since (several thousand Kms later). My riding position was also set "just so" for the past year, although I did inadvertently ride with too low a saddle after things slipped about a month ago. 'twas only a couple of hundred Kms or so.

With no time for a visit to the docs, physio etc, I've resorted to (yet more) rest and the foam rollers. I'll see how it goes this week!

I'm beginning to think I may have hit it too hard, too soon after an extended winter lay-off (flu, snow, self-impossed rest). That, and reverting to commuting on my geared-for-Essex singlespeed. Bodes well for Belgium frown

Edited by Jimbo. on Monday 25th March 21:25
Interesting to note you have changed saddle height.
I suffered exactly the same last year and during the bike fit the saddle height was reduced by just 8mm....no more pain.

Fluffsri

3,411 posts

225 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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I started taking cod liver oil tablets about 3 months ago and have noticed quite a reduction in knee acheing during and post riding. Worth a bash as not too expensive.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Jimbo. said:
Many thanks, all smile

The pain is bang in the centre of my knee, seemingly under the kneecap.
It could well be Patellar tendinitis. I had a long battle with this and it ended my badminton playing days.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/531247-cycling-p...

Google on stretches for PT or Jumpers Knee. I had steroids injected which was a big mistake and then I found a very good sports injury place and they diagnosed it and treated it.

Get a bike fit and your cleats set up if you haven't already done so, it will make a huge difference to your long term joint health.

Good luck!


Jimbo.

Original Poster:

4,220 posts

218 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Flanders: epic. If you only ever do one thing on a bike, make it this.

140Km, much of it below freezing, up bergs and over cobbles, with said dodgy knee? No so wobble

I've ruled myself off the bike for a week or two, and already after a week of foam rollers, stretching, flexing and anti-inflamatories (but going nowhere near the bike), things are improving. The patience required, especially when the sun is out like today, is immense!

I've also narrowed the cause down to a combo of things:
1) Too hard, too soon after a winter of 1hr turbo sessions
2) A dropped saddle for the rides wherein (1) occurred.
3) Overpronation rearing its ugly head once more: my current insoles/shoes are probably approaching the limits of what they could do re. correction, and with use/wear/compression etc, they're no longer effective.

So, may I ask: does anyone here have overpronating feet/ankles (or just plain dodgy), and/or experience of the Specialized BG shoes and insoles?

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

164 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Kinda...

I overpronate when I'm running (and have orthotics), but that's on the midfoot. I cycle with the ball of my feet, so I'm not convinced about the overpronation being an issue, and I can't really see insoles helping a great deal as they're normally working around the midfoot/heel

That said, I do have specialised shoes, with specialised blues in and some wedges and 5mm of shims - although they're there 'cos I'm a bit knock-kneed and 2cm shorter on one side..

I'd recommend seeing a bike physio (as opposed to just a bike fit, go see someone who's a musculoskeletal specialist).

Magic919

14,500 posts

230 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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I've got some (sideways) tapered shims fitted to the front of my cycling shoes. All part of a fitting with The Bike Whisperer.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Magic919 said:
I've got some (sideways) tapered shims fitted to the front of my cycling shoes. All part of a fitting with The Bike Whisperer.
+1
He did the same for me, made some difference and well worth the money. I was sceptical because of all the fuss about laser alignment but to date much of what he told me that day has been the reality. Very good guy.