"Saftey" Camera Van
"Saftey" Camera Van
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Humper

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946 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Wish I had on board video in my cab today, heading for Alexandria this morning, taking the bridge turnoff what fks its way into the safe braking gap i've left? Yes Strathclyde Scamera Van SF08KNU. Guess as he was only driving like an ahole and not speeding thats ok? Theres a reason lorry drivers leave a bigger gap coming to a queue of near stationary traffic. Its so I can safely stop 26 tons without running into the car in front.
But was scameraman finished? Nope. He then proceeds to undertake a car on the bridge.

But remember, he was probably in a hurry to keep us "safe" rolleyes

CSK423

838 posts

237 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Better change your thread title, I thought you were poking fun at the van sign being wrong biggrin

Technomad

753 posts

193 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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CSK423 said:
Better change your thread title, I thought you were poking fun at the van sign being wrong biggrin
Interesting. a couple of years ago, I nearly got taken out by a Strathclyde camera van behaving like a tt - here's the email I sent to the Plod. They of course just tried to bury me in bullst...

Dear Sirs,
At about 1500 on Thursday 19th July I was driving myself and my partner
along the Westbound M80/M8 into and through Glasgow, in the 50mph limit
section of that road. Behind us was a marked Strathclyde Police Mercedes
van/minibus, index number SG52 NHA, emblazoned with 'safety' camera
logos. At this point, I noticed a dark Vauxhall approaching in the
right-hand lane - I estimated his speed at about 60-65mph. As he went to
pass the camera van, the van swerved into the outside lane in an obvious
attempt to block the Vauxhall's progress.
The car eventually passed both the van and then ourselves. The van then
accelerated, straddling the lane divider and flashing its headlights,
before then passing us at at speed I estimated to be in excess of 75mph.
It immediately started tailgating the Vauxhall at less than a car's
length. The Vauxhall pulled into the left-hand lane, at which point the
Police van then pulled alongside the Vauxhall and deliberately boxed it
into the inside lane as it approached another vehicle. The police van
remained in that position in the right-hand lane, immediately to the
rear three-quarter of a van, in order to continue to box in the
Vauxhall, for the four miles or so for which we had it in sight, at
about 60-65mph, and causing a tailback of traffic behind it.

The driver of the police van was a late middle-aged white male, not
apparently wearing a police uniform, simply a dark blue or black jumper.
Conditions were dry and clear and traffic reasonably light.
Much of the traffic on the road was marginally-to-mildly exceeding the
posted limit, but the only actually stupid and dangerous driving that
was going on anywhere along that stretch of motorway was being committed
by the driver of your vehicle.

When faced with such stupid, dangerous and arrogantly sanctimonious
behaviour, can you be surprised that most road users regard all
camera-based enforcement with utter contempt, as hypocritical and as
having nothing to do with genuinely road safety? This was an appalling
example for a driver of a police vehicle to set, and I look forward to
your response, with details of what action you intend to take. For your
information, the slogan along the van's side was of the nature of
"camera save lives". If that is the case, then what we clearly had was
an example of the balance of nature in action, with your driver doing
his best to take a few away.

And am I qualified to make these observations? I hope so, especially
given the grossly obvious nature of the fool's driving - I'm an IAM
Observer, am RoSPA qualified to Gold standard and have been an
instructor with the police BikeSafe scheme.

sjabrown

2,090 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Very interesting this, as I have complained about the driving standards of the very same van to Strathclyde Police and had no response. I wrote last week a second time saying if I didn't get a response I would go further.

Van pulled out to overtake on a long left hand bend which wasn't clear. Car in other carriageway had to take avoiding action as did I. Wishing I had the camera on in the car for that.

S2red

2,557 posts

221 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Was there not a thing in press year or so ago where someone being very brave tailed safatey van from Ayr back to base took video or photograhed it at 85mph + on A77?

XDA

2,153 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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S2red said:
Was there not a thing in press year or so ago where someone being very brave tailed safatey van from Ayr back to base took video or photograhed it at 85mph + on A77?
Yep! hehe

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/SPEEDER'S+REVENGE%3B...

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

170 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Hypocrits. It's impossible to respect these morons regardless of their uniforms. Time to start publically outing them and losing them their jobs and pensions. As tax payers we can't be having these idiots leeching our money when there are clearly better people for the job.

simoid

19,774 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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XDA said:
S2red said:
Was there not a thing in press year or so ago where someone being very brave tailed safatey van from Ayr back to base took video or photograhed it at 85mph + on A77?
Yep! hehe

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/SPEEDER'S+REVENGE%3B...
Why didn't I hear about that at the time?

Humper

Original Poster:

946 posts

192 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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CSK423 said:
Better change your thread title, I thought you were poking fun at the van sign being wrong biggrin
Ah, the joys of posting on a smartphone.......

( and ah canny spel.......) cry

Seems I cant cover my ineptitude either. How do you sort the title?

johnycarrera

1,935 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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jamieduff1981 said:
Hypocrits. It's impossible to respect these morons regardless of their uniforms. Time to start publically outing them and losing them their jobs and pensions. As tax payers we can't be having these idiots leeching our money when there are clearly better people for the job.
Driven and operated by civilians FYI

jith

2,752 posts

245 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Technomad said:
CSK423 said:
Better change your thread title, I thought you were poking fun at the van sign being wrong biggrin
Interesting. a couple of years ago, I nearly got taken out by a Strathclyde camera van behaving like a tt - here's the email I sent to the Plod. They of course just tried to bury me in bullst...

Dear Sirs,
At about 1500 on Thursday 19th July I was driving myself and my partner
along the Westbound M80/M8 into and through Glasgow, in the 50mph limit
section of that road. Behind us was a marked Strathclyde Police Mercedes
van/minibus, index number SG52 NHA, emblazoned with 'safety' camera
logos. At this point, I noticed a dark Vauxhall approaching in the
right-hand lane - I estimated his speed at about 60-65mph. As he went to
pass the camera van, the van swerved into the outside lane in an obvious
attempt to block the Vauxhall's progress.
The car eventually passed both the van and then ourselves. The van then
accelerated, straddling the lane divider and flashing its headlights,
before then passing us at at speed I estimated to be in excess of 75mph.
It immediately started tailgating the Vauxhall at less than a car's
length. The Vauxhall pulled into the left-hand lane, at which point the
Police van then pulled alongside the Vauxhall and deliberately boxed it
into the inside lane as it approached another vehicle. The police van
remained in that position in the right-hand lane, immediately to the
rear three-quarter of a van, in order to continue to box in the
Vauxhall, for the four miles or so for which we had it in sight, at
about 60-65mph, and causing a tailback of traffic behind it.

The driver of the police van was a late middle-aged white male, not
apparently wearing a police uniform, simply a dark blue or black jumper.
Conditions were dry and clear and traffic reasonably light.
Much of the traffic on the road was marginally-to-mildly exceeding the
posted limit, but the only actually stupid and dangerous driving that
was going on anywhere along that stretch of motorway was being committed
by the driver of your vehicle.

When faced with such stupid, dangerous and arrogantly sanctimonious
behaviour, can you be surprised that most road users regard all
camera-based enforcement with utter contempt, as hypocritical and as
having nothing to do with genuinely road safety? This was an appalling
example for a driver of a police vehicle to set, and I look forward to
your response, with details of what action you intend to take. For your
information, the slogan along the van's side was of the nature of
"camera save lives". If that is the case, then what we clearly had was
an example of the balance of nature in action, with your driver doing
his best to take a few away.

And am I qualified to make these observations? I hope so, especially
given the grossly obvious nature of the fool's driving - I'm an IAM
Observer, am RoSPA qualified to Gold standard and have been an
instructor with the police BikeSafe scheme.
Did you get a result from your complaint? Had it been me, I would have pursued that bd relentlessly until he was prosecuted and removed from the job.

Sadly, there are an increasing number of drivers of police vehicles who are either not advanced, or simply choose to ignore the benefits and principles of the training they received. Totally and absolutely not acceptable.

J

Technomad

753 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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jith said:
Did you get a result from your complaint? Had it been me, I would have pursued that bd relentlessly until he was prosecuted and removed from the job.

Sadly, there are an increasing number of drivers of police vehicles who are either not advanced, or simply choose to ignore the benefits and principles of the training they received. Totally and absolutely not acceptable.

J
Hah! I got a phone call from an Inspector, who wanted to come out and meet me to explain that his highly trained driver was in fact operating at a level of advanced driving whose nuances I, as a mere mortal, couldn't possibly comprehend. I asked if the driver was going to be subject to disciplinary action. He said no, so I asked why I would possibly want to waste my time talking to no purpose whatsoever? Complete snow job. if I see anything like that again, I'm hitting the camera button.

slickmouse

115 posts

166 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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johnycarrera said:
Driven and operated by civilians FYI
I bet these civilians are ex fuzz who took retirement a big lump sum followed by a healthy pension to then walk into this job which required past experience.

It's what these do, trust me

johnycarrera

1,935 posts

260 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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slickmouse said:
I bet these civilians are ex fuzz who took retirement a big lump sum followed by a healthy pension to then walk into this job which required past experience.

It's what these do, trust me
Ok I trust you!

bluejj

183 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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johnycarrera said:
slickmouse said:
I bet these civilians are ex fuzz who took retirement a big lump sum followed by a healthy pension to then walk into this job which required past experience.

It's what these do, trust me
Ok I trust you!
I don't because some people talk total and utter rubbish!!!!

johnycarrera

1,935 posts

260 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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wink

slickmouse

115 posts

166 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Tell me what makes you think I'm talking utter rubbish ?
This should be interesting....

bluejj

183 posts

261 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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slickmouse said:
Tell me what makes you think I'm talking utter rubbish ?
This should be interesting....
Because I know a great number of said "operatives" and none are retired police officers. Good enough for you??

Humper

Original Poster:

946 posts

192 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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bluejj said:
Because I know a great number of said "operatives" and none are retired police officers. Good enough for you??
Good enough for me, can you pass my regards to the prick i posted about?

bluejj

183 posts

261 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Humper said:
bluejj said:
Because I know a great number of said "operatives" and none are retired police officers. Good enough for you??
Good enough for me, can you pass my regards to the prick i posted about?
You may be surprised as to how much I agree with some of your comments