RE: Malcolm in the Esprit
Tuesday 25th June 2002
Malcolm in the Esprit
The 16 year old star of 'Malcolm in the Middle', Frankie Muniz, has just taken delivery of a 2002 Anniversary Esprit. This joins his growing collection of cars, including the VW Jetta from the 'Fast and the Furious' - his mum made him disconnect the nitrous system...
Discussion
Yes and we are all waiting with baited breath for the inevitable influx of parts when he totals it...
ErnestM
'98 (I'll have the wheels please) V8
I SECOND THAT.
Little shit doesnt deserve me dream car! Especially since he has some riced VW. Little punk. If I see his ugly head im going to slap him and steal his Lotus!
ErnestM
'98 (I'll have the wheels please) V8
I SECOND THAT.
Little shit doesnt deserve me dream car! Especially since he has some riced VW. Little punk. If I see his ugly head im going to slap him and steal his Lotus!
So...
Some young man is successful enough in his career that at a young age he is able to afford to purchase a supercar.
You should be congratulating him not reviling him. So what if its a crap TV programme...its a dirty job but someone's got to do it.
Well done the young man. Took me *years* longer than that to be able to buy my first Porsche. I think I was 25...
Some young man is successful enough in his career that at a young age he is able to afford to purchase a supercar.
You should be congratulating him not reviling him. So what if its a crap TV programme...its a dirty job but someone's got to do it.
Well done the young man. Took me *years* longer than that to be able to buy my first Porsche. I think I was 25...
I look at it this way. The kid shows a helluva lot of taste. It's not like the Esprit is the flavor of the month here in the states. One would think if he was just a kid collecting toys he'd have found something a bit more well known, like something with a prancing horse, not the car everyone confuses with the prancing horse (Lotus.)
Personally, I am glad to see a celeb buy a Lotus. I'm also thrilled that Lotus Challenge is being released for Xbox here. Things like that revive the marquee here. I get tired of people asking me if my car is a Ferrari, then asking me "who makes Lotus" when I tell them what it is. Then having to wrench my own stomach when I have to respond to the ensuing blank stare with "Think of it as a British Ferrari." Only then do they go "Ohhh!!!" and recognize it's not a kit car or glorified Italian tractor.
So, more power to Frankie Muniz, and more power to Lotus. And BTW, the show is downright hilarious.
Mike of the Mad Variety.
Personally, I am glad to see a celeb buy a Lotus. I'm also thrilled that Lotus Challenge is being released for Xbox here. Things like that revive the marquee here. I get tired of people asking me if my car is a Ferrari, then asking me "who makes Lotus" when I tell them what it is. Then having to wrench my own stomach when I have to respond to the ensuing blank stare with "Think of it as a British Ferrari." Only then do they go "Ohhh!!!" and recognize it's not a kit car or glorified Italian tractor.
So, more power to Frankie Muniz, and more power to Lotus. And BTW, the show is downright hilarious.
Mike of the Mad Variety.
Hey, to be fair I should add that for every knucklehead who doesn't know anything exists beyond Porsche, Ferrari or Lamborghini, I get someone walk up to me at a gas station who knows EXACTLY what it is, and just wants to tell me how cool my car is.
Don't want to portray all of us "Yanks" as rubes.
Don't want to portray all of us "Yanks" as rubes.
quote:
Quote: Don't want to portray all yanks as rubes.
What's a Rube?
Sh*tkicker, Cowboy, W*nker, etc, etc
FYI: I too am amazed at this young man's taste. However, when I was 16 (this is in retrospect of course), if I had a car with the Esprit's potential, chances are great that I would not be typing this today. I would be worm food!
I wish him all the luck, but would also advise him much caution, and remind him of the two bulls story;
"Two bulls on a hill one younger, one older. The younger bull says - hey let's RUN down the hill and F*ck a couple of those cows. The older and wiser says, no let's WALK down the hill and F*ck them ALL."
The Esprit (IMHO) is this type of car. You don't have to race ANYONE at a stop light because, well, at the end of the day - you have an Esprit and they have, well, NOT an Esprit!
all IMHO...
cheers
ErnestM
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So let me see if I understand this.... some 16 year old (which you apparently don't like) buys the same type of car that you want... and now you don't want one anymore, right? And just how old might you be?
Regards, KM
2000 V8
Old enough to know better! You're right, this guy never did anything to me, never even seen the show, just a kneejerk reaction to a system that rewards a 16 y.o. - maybe perfectly nice, and as others said, with good taste in cars - with that kind of money, while teachers and nurses scrape by, and people in developing countries dont have enough to eat.
Capitalism won, right?
I think it's great that a 16 year old can fulfill a dream of his getting an Esprit V8 even though his dad might have had a say to what model to get...elder people are wise... About the thing about others not having food in other countries or nurses just trying to get by, if people didn't buy supercars the workers in that field would not be seeing "good times" and maybe out of a job, sorry about that long sentence. Anyways, cars like this show the way for more "everyday cars" like good handling and ABS and so on : thus something for everyone. When I was about 13 y.o. I encountered an Esprit Turbo in Chicago in a parking lot and was sold. I couldn't get it out of my mind for 15 years, hell sometimes couldn't even sleep well thinking about "what it would be like to have one." Well, now (age 28) after giving up alot of funds to buy a 2001 V8, I rest a bit better now a days not having that old thought in my mind. Then again, at night I think about that little piece of history (about 200 made that year) in my yard. Plus minus zero I guess. All good things to Malcolm and others who dream of or fulfill their dreams containing Esprit's or other things.
*happy sob*
P.S. the Esprit V8 (only yellow car there) can be seen at www.radalle.com pages but don't even try to understand the Finnish text on the pages!!!
*happy sob*
P.S. the Esprit V8 (only yellow car there) can be seen at www.radalle.com pages but don't even try to understand the Finnish text on the pages!!!
The exhaust on the Esprit is a "sport exhaust" as the dealer told me offered by Lotus. It has quite a qrunt to it at idle and when driving slow at 4000rpms, sounds like a flock of motocross bikes driving next to you, a sound that will make deaf people turn and listen!! Because I like to drive on tracks where the cat. converts are getting hotter than the space shuttles heat shields in re-entry, I'm leaning on the quicksilver(i think the name was, based in U.K.) straight exhaust to be my first modification. After almost a full month of having it!! The pipes you see out the end of the car are stainless steel and roughly 2.5", and of course, a pair of them. BTW... during the winter I will fabricate better brakes at 355MM diameter (yes, that is 14") for the esprit that will fit in orig. front rims. Anyboby else interested in race spec. brakes for the Esprit..? The orig. AP brakes will look like toys compaired to the Alcons being put on. Not the cheapest set up, but the best.
*CNC Machinist*
*CNC Machinist*
Scanfab
Thanks for the info. It looks a little different to the 'sports exhaust' i have (a genuine lotus item).
I've experimented with straight pipes (like quicksilver). I've made my own (not difficult to do) but will swap back to the sports exhaust as i find the straight pipes too loud. I believe you can also buy very similar pipes from chris neil for a lot less money than quicksilver. Take care, the pipes will droop unless you have a cross brace (which they don't include). Also, you may find the suspension rises a little at the rear without the weight of the rear box.
Better brakes? Yes, always interested in better braking systems.. but here's an idea: if you're upgrading, i'd be interested in buying your AP's. Mine has brembos which aren't as any where near as good as the ap's.
Before you invest a lot of time in research, have a look at the brakes that mike haines racing has done for mike sekinger:
This is on sport350.
cheers
Rob
ps - mail me off line if you want to chat.
Thanks for the info. It looks a little different to the 'sports exhaust' i have (a genuine lotus item).
I've experimented with straight pipes (like quicksilver). I've made my own (not difficult to do) but will swap back to the sports exhaust as i find the straight pipes too loud. I believe you can also buy very similar pipes from chris neil for a lot less money than quicksilver. Take care, the pipes will droop unless you have a cross brace (which they don't include). Also, you may find the suspension rises a little at the rear without the weight of the rear box.
Better brakes? Yes, always interested in better braking systems.. but here's an idea: if you're upgrading, i'd be interested in buying your AP's. Mine has brembos which aren't as any where near as good as the ap's.
Before you invest a lot of time in research, have a look at the brakes that mike haines racing has done for mike sekinger:
This is on sport350.
cheers
Rob
ps - mail me off line if you want to chat.
you guys are awful!! when you become a successful actor you can by whatev the hell you want. frankie is awesome and he's so humble and down to earth and he works really hard and he pays for every aspect of the cars he owns himself--like the insurance and everything. it's his car...if he totals it he can pay for it on his own and get a new one. it won't bother him...but i hope it DOES bother you cuz you are so unbelievably horrible towards him...and resentful
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you guys are awful!! when you become a successful actor you can by whatev the hell you want. frankie is awesome and he's so humble and down to earth and he works really hard and he pays for every aspect of the cars he owns himself--like the insurance and everything. it's his car...if he totals it he can pay for it on his own and get a new one. it won't bother him...but i hope it DOES bother you cuz you are so unbelievably horrible towards him...and resentful
This is not about him being able to afford the car and it's repairs, etc.
It's about the fact that an Esprit is a work of automotive art and a 16 year old wouldn't appreciate it. If you think that he would, then you must be 16 too. Because any 'grown up' can attest to the fact that all our first and even second cars have been wrecked, simply because we were learning to drive and learning about our abilities in various road conditions. I am not talking about totalling a car, but about putting bumps, scratches, ripping a spoiler off, etc on the car, which on a car like the Esprit it's an absolute shame.
Now, the above is about 'normal' cars. The Esprit is a totally different animal. People that have decades of driving experience can't handle an Esprit properly at the start. It took me 3 months to learn how to drive my first one properly and to learn to respect it for the fact that if I am not careful with it, it will turn around and bite me in the as*.
All this is about his driving abilities as a 16 year old. I don't know his character, so I can't comment on the fact that he could be like most other 16 year olds and he would try to show off with the car by doing burnouts or stupid things in front of his friends. Or the fact that he would stink the leather up with cigarette smoke, or spill alcohol/food/etc in the car. But, as I just said, I don't know him as a person so I can't say that he will do the above things. However, he will definetelly not have the experience/ability to drive an Esprit properly yet, and most likely by the time he will, the car would unfortunately have suffered.
It's about the fact that an Esprit is a work of automotive art and a 16 year old wouldn't appreciate it. If you think that he would, then you must be 16 too. Because any 'grown up' can attest to the fact that all our first and even second cars have been wrecked, simply because we were learning to drive and learning about our abilities in various road conditions. I am not talking about totalling a car, but about putting bumps, scratches, ripping a spoiler off, etc on the car, which on a car like the Esprit it's an absolute shame.
Now, the above is about 'normal' cars. The Esprit is a totally different animal. People that have decades of driving experience can't handle an Esprit properly at the start. It took me 3 months to learn how to drive my first one properly and to learn to respect it for the fact that if I am not careful with it, it will turn around and bite me in the as*.
All this is about his driving abilities as a 16 year old. I don't know his character, so I can't comment on the fact that he could be like most other 16 year olds and he would try to show off with the car by doing burnouts or stupid things in front of his friends. Or the fact that he would stink the leather up with cigarette smoke, or spill alcohol/food/etc in the car. But, as I just said, I don't know him as a person so I can't say that he will do the above things. However, he will definetelly not have the experience/ability to drive an Esprit properly yet, and most likely by the time he will, the car would unfortunately have suffered.
I just hope a 16-17 year old kid like him would at worse wrap the car around a telephone pole and not involve us in the accident. i think a kid with his driving experience and a performance vehicle like this is a accident waitiing to happen. If I were his father, I would insist him taking a driving/safety course before even going anywhere near a performance vehicle like a lotus. In the mean time, he ought to be driving a Ford Focus.
>> Edited by Track101 on Wednesday 25th September 00:45
>> Edited by Track101 on Wednesday 25th September 00:45
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