3ltr inlet manifold
3ltr inlet manifold
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mgbond

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6,749 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Have you 3.0 owners seen this inlet manifold. I was just trying to find if there was a difference between the ST24 ans ST200 lower manifolds and came across this from turbo hoses:

The pic is on a noble, this will prevent the cracking of the plastics inlet.

http://www.stdrivers.co.uk/forum/topic/23027-intak...





Edited by mgbond on Saturday 2nd March 20:35

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Throttle body, upper and lower inlet manifolds were different on the ST200, IIRC.

In Ford circles, the answer seems to be ST220 bottom end, ST200 top end. Can't comment on the Noble world and turbos!

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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the noble 3.0 uses the plastic intake manifold from a ford maverick

the st220 manifold will fit also wink

mgbond

Original Poster:

6,749 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Podie said:
Throttle body, upper and lower inlet manifolds were different on the ST200, IIRC.

In Ford circles, the answer seems to be ST220 bottom end, ST200 top end. Can't comment on the Noble world and turbos!
Off topic slightly as the reason for this post was to just give the 3.0 guys another option.

However, what is the difference between the ST24 and ST200 lower manifold?

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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mgbond said:
Podie said:
Throttle body, upper and lower inlet manifolds were different on the ST200, IIRC.

In Ford circles, the answer seems to be ST220 bottom end, ST200 top end. Can't comment on the Noble world and turbos!
Off topic slightly as the reason for this post was to just give the 3.0 guys another option.

However, what is the difference between the ST24 and ST200 lower manifold?
ST24 LIM was 32/34mm, whilst the ST200 was 33/35.

Throttle body went from 56 to 60mm.

ETA - sorry, saw the post and thought you were asking that too. paperbag

mgbond

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6,749 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Podie said:
ST24 LIM was 32/34mm, whilst the ST200 was 33/35.

Throttle body went from 56 to 60mm.

ETA - sorry, saw the post and thought you were asking that too. paperbag
Thanks for the info. I'm sure there was a reason not to change my LIM when I upgraded to the ST200 UIM on my 2.5. I think it might have been because Noble already changed it? Might take off UIM and measure just to see if I'm missing a bit more power.

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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mgbond said:
Podie said:
ST24 LIM was 32/34mm, whilst the ST200 was 33/35.

Throttle body went from 56 to 60mm.

ETA - sorry, saw the post and thought you were asking that too. paperbag
Thanks for the info. I'm sure there was a reason not to change my LIM when I upgraded to the ST200 UIM on my 2.5. I think it might have been because Noble already changed it? Might take off UIM and measure just to see if I'm missing a bit more power.
I imagine Noble would have used the ST200 spec, but don't know them well enough to know.

Have a vague recollection the Mustang throttle body is even larger...

mgbond

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261 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Podie said:
I imagine Noble would have used the ST200 spec, but don't know them well enough to know.

Have a vague recollection the Mustang throttle body is even larger...
This is what I have




Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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mgbond said:
Podie said:
I imagine Noble would have used the ST200 spec, but don't know them well enough to know.

Have a vague recollection the Mustang throttle body is even larger...
This is what I have

Bit beyond me chap. If I've seen it, I know it - but I'm not the spanner wielding type.

Jim O.

486 posts

226 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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mgbond said:
Have you 3.0 owners seen this inlet manifold. I was just trying to find if there was a difference between the ST24 ans ST200 lower manifolds and came across this from turbo hoses
Yep, I've seen this intake manifold.... smile

2.5bluenob

1,620 posts

205 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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mgbond said:
Thanks for the info. I'm sure there was a reason not to change my LIM when I upgraded to the ST200 UIM on my 2.5. I think it might have been because Noble already changed it? Might take off UIM and measure just to see if I'm missing a bit more power.
Im going to take my engine out this week so i can have a measure and let you know what i find out.
steve

mgbond

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261 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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2.5bluenob said:
Im going to take my engine out this week so i can have a measure and let you know what i find out.
steve
Cool

Adrian W

15,449 posts

257 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Jim O. said:
Yep, I've seen this intake manifold.... smile
Very nice, looks expensive, do they fit in hand luggage ?

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Adrian W said:
Jim O. said:
Yep, I've seen this intake manifold.... smile
Very nice, looks expensive, do they fit in hand luggage ?
It's around 4k although claimed to give 80bhp over stock!

Adrian W

15,449 posts

257 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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andygtt said:
It's around 4k although claimed to give 80bhp over stock!
With no other changes has someone added a zero

mgbond

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6,749 posts

261 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Tux, this is your next project. Keep the flutes Ali but make the rest carbon wink

tonyvan

913 posts

237 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Ive already made an inlet plenum for the 3ltr.pics were posted a while bak,needed to be mapped to make it work,but early testing looked and was positive.just put it on the back burner,as i had other things to do.so its been done.

mgbond

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Sunday 3rd March 2013
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tonyvan said:
Ive already made an inlet plenum for the 3ltr.pics were posted a while bak,needed to be mapped to make it work,but early testing looked and was positive.just put it on the back burner,as i had other things to do.so its been done.
Indeed but not herd anything for a while and not sure I had seen this one before. No good for me but thought some might be interested.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Adrian W said:
andygtt said:
It's around 4k although claimed to give 80bhp over stock!
With no other changes has someone added a zero
Looking at all the sharp edges, poor radii, potential for charge robbing, potential for charge reflection, i'd hazard a guess at -8 bhp......... ;-)

I'd stick with the one from Ford!

2.5bluenob

1,620 posts

205 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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tonyvan said:
Ive already made an inlet plenum .so its been done.
Tonyvan, I'm sure you are a really nice bloke and you certainly have a wealth of knowledge and enthusiasm when it comes to nobles.
But every time i read one of your posts it either starts with or ends with 'so its already been done' or i've already done it type remark.
Chill out you have got nothing to prove! so i'm not quite sure why feel the need to act as if you do!
It comes across as if your remarks have an air of i've already done it, i'm one step ahead so don't bother feel to them. Which seems crazy. Im sure that if you sit down and think about it most things we do in life have already been done before by someone somewhere , so lets all give up and not bother. lol