Danny Baker's Great Album Showdown.
Danny Baker's Great Album Showdown.
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Robert C

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266 posts

209 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Having still got most of my vinyl record collection not too mention piles of CD's I spotted this program earlier on BBC4. I felt it was interesting viewing though I didn't agree with everything that was said!

With Danny Baker there was Kate Mossman, Stephen Street and Jeremy Clarkson.

Link to the iplayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01qkvxr/

I thought it might be of interest to some here.

Robert


Markh

2,781 posts

304 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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just watched, brilliant a most enjoyable 60 mins


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01qkvxr/Dann...

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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2 more shows tonight and tomorrow.

Johnspex

5,240 posts

213 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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As I just posted on the TV forum, any programme that starts with clips of Magic Bus and Young Man Blues from Live at Leeds is OK with me. I haven't seen the whole programme yet but I think Clarkson was saying Who's Next is the best Who album. It is a fantastic album and better than anything anybody else has produced but Quadropheni is THE best.

Dracoro

9,023 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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swiveleyedgit said:
2 more shows tonight and tomorrow.
When/Where? Guide says next Tuesday for next one....

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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The program guide says 9pm tonight and tomorrow on BBC 4. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/...

silverthorn2151

6,391 posts

208 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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Just watched the first one on the iPad whilst the second is being skyplussed.

It's great when you find these little gems of television that you just sit and enjoy that don't pretend to be anything that they aren't. In this case it helps that I am a child of 1960 and the emotions and dreams talked about I recognise so easily. I shall look forward to the next couple of program's.

Well done BBC I suppose should be added. They get such a lot of brick bats it's only fair to say well done.

Zad

13,005 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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I just watched the second programme tonight. The BBC really do some excellent stuff on BBC3 and BBC4 (and for that matter Radio 6 and Radio 4 Extra), far better than the mainstream channels. You can tell that the people behind it actually have a passion for their work.

Did anyone else think that Boy George had lost some weight? Looking better for it too.

Marvindodgers

734 posts

245 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Watched the "File Under Rock" episode last night. Best 60 minutes of tv I've watched in years! So good that I sat there with a smile on my face the entire time. I even had a little cheer when Danny pulled out A Wizard A True Star and claimed it to be his favourite album of all time, as I am in agreement with him on that!
Great guests and the most calm I have ever seen Clarkson on a tv show. Congratulations to BBC Four for making programmes like this that don't just pander to the mainstream - Zappa, King Crimson and Coliseum in the Top 12, alongside Bowie, Supertramp and Fleetwood Mac.
Looking forward to the other two episodes, but this episode is more my music.

silverthorn2151

6,391 posts

208 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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This is not the thread to debate it but I do give a little cheer when people support and applauded some of the stuff that the BBC turn out. I get fed up with the violent objection to paying the licence fee that is expressed here at PH. I watch this, some other stuff on BBC 3 & 4 plus a bunch of podcasts, compare it to my £70/month sky payment and think what bloody good value the BBC is.

I shall sit down now.

Marvindodgers

734 posts

245 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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silverthorn2151 said:
This is not the thread to debate it but I do give a little cheer when people support and applauded some of the stuff that the BBC turn out. I get fed up with the violent objection to paying the licence fee that is expressed here at PH. I watch this, some other stuff on BBC 3 & 4 plus a bunch of podcasts, compare it to my £70/month sky payment and think what bloody good value the BBC is.

I shall sit down now.
Couldn't agree with you more. The BBC is the best value "tax" we pay.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

178 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Really enjoyed all three of them & I've decided I'd like to boff Kate Mossman. Can't fault Danny Baker's passion, but I wish he'd give his bum a chance once in a while.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

175 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Danny Baker talked such crap about young people not liking albums, nostalgic tt.

Im a young un, know loads of friends who just like me, love albums, and know of loads of bands that still take pride in the album.

He kept talking about it as if all of the post 80s kids didnt have any interest in complete albums, that music was musak for the young people due to the use of internet music sites, nor that young people had any knoweldge of musical history.

Rather insulting.

Oh and Kate Mossman sounds just like the countdown girl.

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

256 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Fantuzzi said:
Danny Baker talked such crap about young people not liking albums, nostalgic tt.

Im a young un, know loads of friends who just like me, love albums, and know of loads of bands that still take pride in the album.

He kept talking about it as if all of the post 80s kids didnt have any interest in complete albums, that music was musak for the young people due to the use of internet music sites, nor that young people had any knoweldge of musical history.

Rather insulting.
How is it 'talking crap' if he's reporting facts? These figures back up exactly what he said.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/021711disr...

CrabDan

568 posts

172 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Anyone who genuinely appreciates music will always appreciate the album though, regardless of age.

You can't just say something as broad and general as "young people don't listen to albums any more."

That is bks, regardless of statistics.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

175 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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AdeTuono said:
Fantuzzi said:
Danny Baker talked such crap about young people not liking albums, nostalgic tt.

Im a young un, know loads of friends who just like me, love albums, and know of loads of bands that still take pride in the album.

He kept talking about it as if all of the post 80s kids didnt have any interest in complete albums, that music was musak for the young people due to the use of internet music sites, nor that young people had any knoweldge of musical history.

Rather insulting.
How is it 'talking crap' if he's reporting facts? These figures back up exactly what he said.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/021711disr...
The statistics are misleading.

Loads of great albums can be listened to on spotify or even on youtube.

Theres no need to buy and album then decide of you like it any more, I can listen to vanilla fudge on youtube, then decide if I want to own the album.

Ive listened to loads of awsome, really awsome albums on youtube, the sound quality may not be superb, but the music is good enough that this doesnt matter, you will still be moved by the album.

Its more the idea that 'young people' dont like albums that I have a problem with, the assumption that all people under 40 want a quick fix of 3 minutes, we dont care enough to sit down and appreciate a full peice of work is just false.


AdeTuono

7,626 posts

256 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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Fantuzzi said:
AdeTuono said:
Fantuzzi said:
Danny Baker talked such crap about young people not liking albums, nostalgic tt.

Im a young un, know loads of friends who just like me, love albums, and know of loads of bands that still take pride in the album.

He kept talking about it as if all of the post 80s kids didnt have any interest in complete albums, that music was musak for the young people due to the use of internet music sites, nor that young people had any knoweldge of musical history.

Rather insulting.
How is it 'talking crap' if he's reporting facts? These figures back up exactly what he said.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/021711disr...
The statistics are misleading.

Loads of great albums can be listened to on spotify or even on youtube.

Theres no need to buy and album then decide of you like it any more, I can listen to vanilla fudge on youtube, then decide if I want to own the album.

Ive listened to loads of awsome, really awsome albums on youtube, the sound quality may not be superb, but the music is good enough that this doesnt matter, you will still be moved by the album.

Its more the idea that 'young people' dont like albums that I have a problem with, the assumption that all people under 40 want a quick fix of 3 minutes, we dont care enough to sit down and appreciate a full peice of work is just false.
I'm absolutely sure you're right. No doubt he made it all up off the top of his head on the spur of the moment. He lives, breathes and works in the very media he's quoting, and is no doubt absolutely clueless.

To quote Stewart Lee; well, you can prove anything with facts.thumbup

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

220 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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AdeTuono said:
How is it 'talking crap' if he's reporting facts? These figures back up exactly what he said.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/021711disr...
But don't take into consideration the average young persons illegal music stash.

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

256 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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james_gt3rs said:
AdeTuono said:
How is it 'talking crap' if he's reporting facts? These figures back up exactly what he said.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/021711disr...
But don't take into consideration the average young persons illegal music stash.
That's a very good point...hadn't considered that. Guilty of that myself, to the extent that I've replicated my entire vinyl/CD collection via torrents. I've bought the same album once, twice, even four times in various formats, so I figured, rightly or wrongly, that it was about time to 'stick it to the record company'. But that's a different topic....


Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

175 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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AdeTuono said:
james_gt3rs said:
AdeTuono said:
How is it 'talking crap' if he's reporting facts? These figures back up exactly what he said.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/021711disr...
But don't take into consideration the average young persons illegal music stash.
That's a very good point...hadn't considered that. Guilty of that myself, to the extent that I've replicated my entire vinyl/CD collection via torrents. I've bought the same album once, twice, even four times in various formats, so I figured, rightly or wrongly, that it was about time to 'stick it to the record company'. But that's a different topic....
Wait so He gets a 'I didnt think of that' comment and I get a sarcastic response?

We have said the same thing, music is free now. Hence the reason why the statistics are false.

Dont use Stewart Lee, he would understand that the sales of albums has gone down not due to lack of interest but due to the vast amount of free music online.


Edited by Fantuzzi on Saturday 9th February 16:20