powerkits, are they worth the money?
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I have fitted my 997 cabriolet 4S 2010 model with a powerkit 3 month ago.
Being in Lebanon (Beirut). I had to dish out the equivalent of £11,500 for a gain of 28 bhp raising the power from 385 bhp to 408 bhp i.e around £411 per bhp.
I also bought a cayenne turbo 957 2009 model and since I could not find a decent turbo S to buy I asked the dealer to install a powerkit to raise the power by an additional 40 bhp to reach 540 bhp. The dealer is requesting £ 12,500 for the job.
I also had the ecu in my 996 turbo S 2005 remapped to 510 BHP.
You may wonder why spend this money on such powerkits, but being 70% all uphill, the roads in Lebanon , any slight improvement can cause a big differrence when racing throuh those winding mountain roads. Also note that any messing with power on your car by anybody besides the Porsche authorized dealer (only one in Lebanon) would cost you your warranty.
Am I being charged too much by the dealer or are those prices normal.
Being in Lebanon (Beirut). I had to dish out the equivalent of £11,500 for a gain of 28 bhp raising the power from 385 bhp to 408 bhp i.e around £411 per bhp.
I also bought a cayenne turbo 957 2009 model and since I could not find a decent turbo S to buy I asked the dealer to install a powerkit to raise the power by an additional 40 bhp to reach 540 bhp. The dealer is requesting £ 12,500 for the job.
I also had the ecu in my 996 turbo S 2005 remapped to 510 BHP.
You may wonder why spend this money on such powerkits, but being 70% all uphill, the roads in Lebanon , any slight improvement can cause a big differrence when racing throuh those winding mountain roads. Also note that any messing with power on your car by anybody besides the Porsche authorized dealer (only one in Lebanon) would cost you your warranty.
Am I being charged too much by the dealer or are those prices normal.
Edited by Shortshifter on Friday 18th January 20:30
Thanks a lot for your clarifications,
I made a substraction mistake of 3 bhp so what.
And when I say 70% of the roads are uphill I ment the roads we use everyday.
I live at 1010 meters above sea level and work at sea level so I have to drop 1010 meters everyday in just 15 to 20 minutes at least twice.
I made a substraction mistake of 3 bhp so what.
And when I say 70% of the roads are uphill I ment the roads we use everyday.
I live at 1010 meters above sea level and work at sea level so I have to drop 1010 meters everyday in just 15 to 20 minutes at least twice.
Shortshifter said:
Thanks a lot for your clarifications,
I made a substraction mistake of 3 bhp so what.
And when I say 70% of the roads are uphill I ment the roads we use everyday.
I live at 1010 meters above sea level and work at sea level so I have to drop 1010 meters everyday in just 15 to 20 minutes at least twice.
Is this a maths question? I think the answer might be 2.13. I made a substraction mistake of 3 bhp so what.
And when I say 70% of the roads are uphill I ment the roads we use everyday.
I live at 1010 meters above sea level and work at sea level so I have to drop 1010 meters everyday in just 15 to 20 minutes at least twice.
I think you're being charged approximately what we'd be charged in the UK if fitted as an aftermarket option.
Power kit in the 997 was about £8k if ordered from the factory, it's quite a lot more expensive as a t-equipment option.
Is it worth it? IMHO, as an after market option; no - it's too little gain for the money but if you can afford it, then why not?
Power kit in the 997 was about £8k if ordered from the factory, it's quite a lot more expensive as a t-equipment option.
Is it worth it? IMHO, as an after market option; no - it's too little gain for the money but if you can afford it, then why not?
If there is one dealer in Lebanon and you are getting the same price as we get in the UK that seems pretty fair and transparent. The question of whether its worth lots of money for a few extra horses is hard to answer. It certainly wouldn't get my vote, but if it matters to you, then why not?
I've had a number of Porsches, though many on here have had more than me, but to be honest, I've never known any of them to struggle on hills!
Perhaps enjoy the cars as they are and spend the money saved on Chateau Musar as I believe the current vintage is one of the best ever!
I've had a number of Porsches, though many on here have had more than me, but to be honest, I've never known any of them to struggle on hills!
Perhaps enjoy the cars as they are and spend the money saved on Chateau Musar as I believe the current vintage is one of the best ever!
You are all right,
It is alot for so litte power gain and the roads surface quality is very poor even with the best tires fitted you would struggle for grip. Its like holiday on ice year round over here.
I have driven in the Porsche world road show on the F1 circuir in Bahrain and the track there has so much grip it was unbelievable we tried many of cars the Porsche range around 20 cars from the new Boxter to the Panamera Turbo S. I felt like when grip was available it all went down to the driver's skill and not the horse power as much and the cars were all amazing.
All in all when I saw the prices of 996 turbo for around £10 K I feel that installing a powerkit for the price of a car is just plain ridiculous.
I'd rather buy the car!!!
It is alot for so litte power gain and the roads surface quality is very poor even with the best tires fitted you would struggle for grip. Its like holiday on ice year round over here.
I have driven in the Porsche world road show on the F1 circuir in Bahrain and the track there has so much grip it was unbelievable we tried many of cars the Porsche range around 20 cars from the new Boxter to the Panamera Turbo S. I felt like when grip was available it all went down to the driver's skill and not the horse power as much and the cars were all amazing.
All in all when I saw the prices of 996 turbo for around £10 K I feel that installing a powerkit for the price of a car is just plain ridiculous.
I'd rather buy the car!!!
Shortshifter said:
I have fitted my 997 cabriolet 4S 2010 model with a powerkit 3 month ago.
Being in Lebanon (Beirut). I had to dish out the equivalent of £11,500 for a gain of 28 bhp raising the power from 385 bhp to 408 bhp i.e around £411 per bhp.
I also bought a cayenne turbo 957 2009 model and since I could not find a decent turbo S to buy I asked the dealer to install a powerkit to raise the power by an additional 40 bhp to reach 540 bhp. The dealer is requesting £ 12,500 for the job.
I also had the ecu in my 996 turbo S 2005 remapped to 510 BHP.
You may wonder why spend this money on such powerkits, but being 70% all uphill, the roads in Lebanon , any slight improvement can cause a big differrence when racing throuh those winding mountain roads. Also note that any messing with power on your car by anybody besides the Porsche authorized dealer (only one in Lebanon) would cost you your warranty.
Am I being charged too much by the dealer or are those prices normal.
Value is in the eye of the beholder to pervert a well known phrase. If you feel that the value of the upgrade is worthwhile and you're going to keep the car for a sufficient period to benefit from the investment, then it makes sense. Being in Lebanon (Beirut). I had to dish out the equivalent of £11,500 for a gain of 28 bhp raising the power from 385 bhp to 408 bhp i.e around £411 per bhp.
I also bought a cayenne turbo 957 2009 model and since I could not find a decent turbo S to buy I asked the dealer to install a powerkit to raise the power by an additional 40 bhp to reach 540 bhp. The dealer is requesting £ 12,500 for the job.
I also had the ecu in my 996 turbo S 2005 remapped to 510 BHP.
You may wonder why spend this money on such powerkits, but being 70% all uphill, the roads in Lebanon , any slight improvement can cause a big differrence when racing throuh those winding mountain roads. Also note that any messing with power on your car by anybody besides the Porsche authorized dealer (only one in Lebanon) would cost you your warranty.
Am I being charged too much by the dealer or are those prices normal.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 18th January 20:30
If you want to get a sense of what it will cost in the UK, I would ring up an OPC and ask the question to the dealer directly. While the configurator will give you the cost of the powerkit, the labour costs may tell a different story. I'm not sure if the powerkit price would be the same as what is quoted in the configurator though; it might be like PCCBs where they're a discounted rate in the configurator but if you retrofit them, it's three times the price.
Personally, I'd see if I could get hold of a car from the dealer that has a powerkit to see if it makes a difference. I'd hate to spend the money in hope and find out it didn't make the difference I thought. They should be amenable if they have stock and stand to make £12k from you, especially if you've bought all your cars from them as well.
I would have sold the 997 c4s and bought a 997 turbo. And ditto the other cars.
Fettling around with NA engines is never a good idea. Both financially and in terms of reliability.
In the UK a decent engine specialist would give you 10% more power with a remap on anything that's got a turbo.
Otherwise, spending 12k on a mainstream porsche power upgrade is madness.
Fettling around with NA engines is never a good idea. Both financially and in terms of reliability.
In the UK a decent engine specialist would give you 10% more power with a remap on anything that's got a turbo.
Otherwise, spending 12k on a mainstream porsche power upgrade is madness.
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