Management consultants... bell-ends?

Management consultants... bell-ends?

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loudpedal

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3,928 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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if you agree, check this out for proof:

www.introducingmonday.com

then, check this out for further proof:

www.introducingmonday.co.uk

larf, i nearly shat.

marki

15,763 posts

276 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Bad planning opps they should have thought of that

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Yes, in short they are - they're the ones, MBAs in hand, who are responsible for the corporate dumbing down which has been happening in the last 10 years and has crossed the blood/brain barrier from corporations into government. The tools normally applied to producing and marketing goods (manufacturing techniques, deskilling, proceduralisation, mergers, advertising, focus groups etc..) are now being applied to governing the country.

That's why we're all drowning in red tape, procedures, invasive policies, petty unenforcable laws, defocusing from the primacy of individual liberty and onto the collective good of the people as determined by Tony's management consultant and a magic 8-ball

It's aposite to a thread we had going yesterday... www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=12220&f=57&h=0

>> Edited by CarZee on Thursday 20th June 14:23

Neil Menzies

5,167 posts

290 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Q: Pay attention, loudpedal.
See thread "RANT - Marketing people"...

loudpedal

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3,928 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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D'oh! Mr. Menzies, you beat me to it!


Oh, and

CARZEE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!


>> Edited by loudpedal on Thursday 20th June 14:26

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Oh, and

CARZEE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
I was waiting for a job with the power, but not the responsibility. Hmm now that I come to think of it, how much does a Management Consultant earn?

M@H

11,297 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Oh, and

CARZEE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
I was waiting for a job with the power, but not the responsibility. Hmm now that I come to think of it, how much does a Management Consultant earn?



FG LOADS.. you need wheelbarrows at payday..

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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They pay you in loose earth and rubble then???

Bonce

4,339 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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See also: www.monday.cc/

ATG

21,181 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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There are a few occaisions when mgmt consultants are useful, but not many. The real problem lies with the companies who are stupid enough to hire them. It's the perfect way for a manager to get rid of any responsibility for making a decision.

A major problem with consulting firms is that they are virtually pyramid schemes. If you want to become monstrously wealthy, consulting is not an obvious choice because it doesn't scale very will. If you want to double your revenue, you have to double the number of consultants ... which means you double your costs. The only thing to do, is to hire lots of cheap labour, i.e. useless muppets straight out of university, charge them out for much more than they are worth and skim a percentage of their earnings as a bonus. How do they progress in the company? By being allowed to hire more muppets beneath them.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

272 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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A bit bitter ATG???

Always thought it was a good way to make money - ask the company whats wrong, write it up in a glossy doc, then charge them shedloads for telling them what they knew anyway.... Money for old rope!

yum

529 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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even the link on their own website goes to a domain name provider...will it go the same way as Consignia?

What makes me laugh is that the consultants themselves will have paid a huge amount of money to other consultants to come up with such a patently silly name!

yum

529 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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they seem to have fixed it in the last five minutes...

M@H

11,297 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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They pay you in loose earth and rubble then???




No way.. they don't pay you THAT much

just pounds shillings and pence...

R6CKT

89 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Let me answer some of your questions as I happen to be a managemant consultant (own business though) sorry !

Yes the moneys pretty good Chimaera and M3

Yes the hours our long 5.30 - 9 Pm

Yes you do tell some of the people what they allready know but also some times you add value

No we are not all up our own ar**s

Having said all that most of my works in the drinks industry not the computer lot

Ducks for cover fire proof mac on !!!!!!

mondeoman

11,430 posts

272 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Let me answer some of your questions as I happen to be a managemant consultant (own business though) sorry !

Yes the moneys pretty good Chimaera and M3

Yes the hours our long 5.30 - 9 Pm

Yes you do tell some of the people what they allready know but also some times you add value

No we are not all up our own ar**s

Having said all that most of my works in the drinks industry not the computer lot

Ducks for cover fire proof mac on !!!!!!



Got any vacancies??

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Yeah - where most people keep their conscience

M@H

11,297 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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"Yes the moneys pretty good Chimaera and M3

Yes the hours our long 5.30 - 9 Pm "


Pretty Good..!! If I could have those two motors for three and a half hours work every afternoon I'd be smiling !!

david_h

579 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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That is probably the funniest thing I've seen on the internet ever.
Brilliant.

ATG

21,181 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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A bit bitter ATG???



No, no ... anyway, not a million miles from what i do myself. I've worked for banks that constantly resorted to hiring the big firms and it was always a huge waste of time and money. This was almost always the banks' fault.
I also know a fair few people working at certain accountants-turned-consultants, hired straight from grad/post education. They got more of an indoctrination than training; in any case training is no substitute for experience. They end up learning on the job at the expense of the client and in that situation no one is a winner.