UEFA Cup to be ditched - Euro Super League on the way
UEFA Cup to be ditched - Euro Super League on the way
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hornetrider

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63,161 posts

221 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20523405

Must admit - I quite like this idea. It will give the 5/6/7 teams the opportunity to duke it out with the likes of Madrid, Barca etc which can only improve them.

And history shows that teams finishing around that level in the league tend to chop and change a bit - rather than us having the current 'closed shop-ish' Top 4. With the format of the UEFA Cup being quite gruelling for not much reward, a single top-tier competition seems like a winner to me.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

271 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Yup. Europa league just isn't a money maker it should be, despite it having some cracking games.

ascayman

13,117 posts

232 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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hornetrider said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20523405

Must admit - I quite like this idea..
Of course you do, you'd stand a chance of getting in to the CL again. laugh

In reality its a stupid idea, the CL is already bloated to double the number of teams would devalue it further.

hornetrider

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63,161 posts

221 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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ascayman said:
In reality its a stupid idea, the CL is already bloated to double the number of teams would devalue it further.
Would you go back to the European Cup - league winners only - straight knockout competition?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

271 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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hornetrider said:
Would you go back to the European Cup - league winners only - straight knockout competition?
I like the idea of that format, but it won't happen.

BrabusMog

20,978 posts

202 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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TheHeretic said:
hornetrider said:
Would you go back to the European Cup - league winners only - straight knockout competition?
I like the idea of that format, but it won't happen.
It wouldn't generate enough money, sadly.

ascayman

13,117 posts

232 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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hornetrider said:
Would you go back to the European Cup - league winners only - straight knockout competition?
Personally yes.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

271 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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BrabusMog said:
It wouldn't generate enough money, sadly.
yes

hornetrider

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63,161 posts

221 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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I think the old knock-out format is archaic, personally. Nowhere near enough big games - it belongs in the past.

Would I be right in thinking that doubling the size of the present competition would only result in two extra games if the group sizes were the same? Okay there'd be double the amount of groups - but all you would have would be a single extra knock out round layer.

GTO-3R

7,790 posts

229 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Rediculous idea. Takes away the prestige away by not having only the best teams in the leagues playing.

SimonRS

6,792 posts

248 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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hornetrider said:
Would you go back to the European Cup - league winners only - straight knockout competition?
It's a dream, but it will never happen for financial reasons. With that format not only do you need to be brilliant technically, you need to play for the badge with all your heart and soul.

You would never see jokeshop clubs like Chelsea and man city winning this competition.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

271 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Is it possible to have an adult conversation without bringing in the fanboy crap associated with moaning about City and Chelsea?

Type R Tom

4,137 posts

165 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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5 Scottish teams? Are they having a laugh? Do we really want Motherwell in the Champions League? Idea sounds ok but how about 9 English and 3 Scots, would make it more competitive!

ascayman

13,117 posts

232 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Type R Tom said:
5 Scottish teams?
As i said its a joke, the only ones that will want this are the ones that want / need a short cut to CL football, it will in no way make the competition better / stronger.

GTO-3R

7,790 posts

229 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Type R Tom said:
5 Scottish teams? Are they having a laugh? Do we really want Motherwell in the Champions League? Idea sounds ok but how about 9 English and 3 Scots, would make it more competitive!
Seems rediculous to me that a team that finishes 9th in there domestic league can have a shot at being champions of Europe. Crazy!!

ellroy

7,504 posts

241 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Type R Tom said:
Idea sounds ok but how about 9 English and 1 Scots-Irish, would make it more competitive!
Think you'll find that's the truth of the matter.

sjc

14,944 posts

286 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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The champions league is bad enough as it is, dead games,playing for draws and worst of all,the fact that you can come fourth in your domestic league, and then be crowned Champs of Europe.
The original European cup for me,all proper teams and proper games.

London424

12,943 posts

191 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Would anyone like to see a mini-super league?

So they take the winners only (limit it to 10 - 12 teams with playoffs if needed). Then every team plays every other team once (home or away is luck of the draw).

You either crown the champion as the team at the top or as per super league, have the grand final deal with the top 4 in a play off.

andyjo1982

5,084 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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sjc said:
The champions league is bad enough as it is, dead games,playing for draws and worst of all,the fact that you can come fourth in your domestic league, and then be crowned Champs of Europe.
The original European cup for me,all proper teams and proper games.
Same here, Champions league should be for champions. IMO, just a straight knockout, no seeds, so first round could be for example, Man U v Barca. Uefa cup for the winners of the cup comps, and perhaps runners up and maybe 3rd place in the league.

I don't like the sound of this new proposal, but I suppose with the large difference in revenue between the 2 competitions, its almost inevitable.


aeropilot

38,451 posts

243 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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sjc said:
The champions league is bad enough as it is, dead games,playing for draws and worst of all,the fact that you can come fourth in your domestic league, and then be crowned Champs of Europe.
The original European cup for me,all proper teams and proper games.
yesyes