Looking for a Lhd Porsche 996 Turbo
Looking for a Lhd Porsche 996 Turbo
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fastf355

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13 posts

167 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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Hi all,

As the title says, I´m after a Lhd Porsche 996 Turbo.

I absoluty love the look of this car and will be a very happy person when a finally have one in my garage smile

If you have recently seen one for sale please could you let me know where. Must be LHD as I live in the canary Islands. Choice here is limited at best!

Thanks very much in advance for anyone that can help me out wink

Really want to join the club! Haha!

cayman-black

13,268 posts

246 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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Rockster

1,515 posts

190 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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It has been some time but I came across some nice articles/write ups in a couple of the UK published indy Porsche mags about UK buyers going to the continent (mainly Germany) and picking up nice used LHD Porsches.

IIRC there may be -- I have not kept up on this subject -- a small cottage industry of sorts that helps with the finding, purchasing, paperwork and transportation of Porsche cars in Germany and elsewhere.

Read through an issue of 911 & Porsche World, Total 911, and GT Porsche mags for any ads from companies offering this overseas (as it were) buying service/experience.

Which reminds me there are some UK buyers who have even found and bought cars here in the USA. A favorable exchange rate at times makes this an attractive alternative.

fastf355

Original Poster:

13 posts

167 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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Rockster said:
Which reminds me there are some UK buyers who have even found and bought cars here in the USA. A favorable exchange rate at times makes this an attractive alternative.
Would they travel to the U.S themselves, or just rely on a vehicle inspection and get the car shipped over? Do you know how much it would be to transport a car from the U.S to europe?

I was looking at a U.S site the other day, and prices seem very reasonable. More comparisable to U.K prices then to european prices.

Thanks for the feedback smile

Rockster

1,515 posts

190 months

Monday 26th November 2012
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fastf355 said:
Would they travel to the U.S themselves, or just rely on a vehicle inspection and get the car shipped over? Do you know how much it would be to transport a car from the U.S to europe?

I was looking at a U.S site the other day, and prices seem very reasonable. More comparisable to U.K prices then to european prices.

Thanks for the feedback smile
Some I'm sure have traveled to the USA either specifically to look for a car or on business or business/pleasure and used this opportunity to check some cars out. The odds are -- though I can't be sure -- the cars having been given some preliminary review from a distance to at least determine if they are worth the time/effort to look any longer at them.

If you wish to rely upon having a 3rd party inspect the car and handle the shipping you probably need to do business with a business that well does this business. You want lots of positive word of mouth and some assurance that you won't get a piece of junk in a shipping box.

How much this costs I do not know. You'll have to find a company that does this and get quotes along with some printed material covering any warranty or guarantee regarding the car's condition.

The cost of the inspection and shipping should be covered.

For just straight shipping assuming you manage to find a car you like on your own there are I'm sure shipping companies that handle cars going to the UK and other places and can quote you a price. Be sure whichever way you go the car is properly insured against all loss in case the box shows up empty or with some other car in it, or the box 'falls overboard' and doesn't appear at the dock at all, to if the ship pulls a Titanic and hits an iceberg with a loss of all containers on board, the title never shows up, and so on etc.

noneedtolift

888 posts

253 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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If I was you I'd buy in Germany - 996tt prices have come right down and most German cars will have a well documented history (in fact many will never have left the OPC network for service). As has been said befor try mobile.de and/or autoscout24.de

Cheburator mk2

3,231 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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noneedtolift said:
If I was you I'd buy in Germany - 996tt prices have come right down and most German cars will have a well documented history (in fact many will never have left the OPC network for service). As has been said befor try mobile.de and/or autoscout24.de
Still massively cheaper in the UK... The only cheap-ish 996TTs I saw in Europe were Italian. Having owned several Italian sourced BMWs and VWs I would not buy a Porsche from there even if it was free... The idea of maintainance/honesty seems pretty foreign to the Italians...

fastf355

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13 posts

167 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Great, booked a test drive this weekend for a 996 Turbo in Italy!

See my latest thresd " Need some advice" for details of the car and a potential service history problem.


cayman-black

13,268 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Cheburator mk2 said:
Still massively cheaper in the UK... The only cheap-ish 996TTs I saw in Europe were Italian. Having owned several Italian sourced BMWs and VWs I would not buy a Porsche from there even if it was free... The idea of maintainance/honesty seems pretty foreign to the Italians...
Funny you say that as fastf355 is just about to find this exact problem!

Cheburator mk2

3,231 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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cayman-black said:
Funny you say that as fastf355 is just about to find this exact problem!
I noticed... As I said in my reply - on a lower value car - lack of service history makes little difference. Lack of rust made a big difference... On a Porsche, however, I would run, and run, and then run again. I think with a bit of patience, a LHD 996 would turn up in the UK around the £30k mark...

It is interesting that the Germans are really turning up their noses at re-imported cars. Also, worth noting, that with the new stricter tax regime in both Italy and Greece, more interesting stuff is coming up for sale, which will only drive the mkt one way... Look at the price of ///M cars... Or sailing yachts...

cayman-black

13,268 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Agree. Patience is needed.

nw28840

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209 months

fastf355

Original Poster:

13 posts

167 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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nw28840 said:
Been trying to get the owner of this garage to get a report done on this vehicle for 2 weeks now! He has been very slow, but apparently is booked in for thurs.

If all is ok with the report, will go and test drive it.

Thanks for the info anyway smile

cayman-black

13,268 posts

246 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Its Tip,is this ok? If so there are two more on OPC german site.

fastf355

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13 posts

167 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Would 100,000 kms (60,000 Miles) put anyone off? Just thinking about how many kms I will add to it, then how easy it would be to sell on afterwards.

What is considered high mileage for theese cars? And what kind of mileage would really depreciate the price?

Again, thanks very much for any feedback smile

Rockster

1,515 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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fastf355 said:
Would 100,000 kms (60,000 Miles) put anyone off? Just thinking about how many kms I will add to it, then how easy it would be to sell on afterwards.

What is considered high mileage for theese cars? And what kind of mileage would really depreciate the price?

Again, thanks very much for any feedback smile
IIRC Porsche figures these cars get driven on average between 6K to 9K miles per year. There are garage queens that get driven way fewer miles (my 03 Turbo bought used in 09 only had 10K miles which was about 1666 miles/year) and there are daily drivers that really rack up the miles. I know by his posts an owner of a 996 Turbo S who has racked up 360K miles on his car and I'm sure it is a MY or two newer than my 03.

I myself have put over 90K miles on my Turbo since June 09 which means the car has averaged just over 2K miles per month. (My 02 Boxster has over 261K miles...)

Generally the value of a car takes a dive (not a big one usually) when it comes out of warranty and again when it passes the 100K mile mark.

I buy cars to drive them and I do not worry about resale value or depreciation. I take good care of my cars but I generally drive them until they are no longer cost effective to keep on the road -- has never really happened -- or I just get tired of the car and want to try something different, or need a different car because of my transportation needs.

Thus I do not worry about miles. I just worry (in a mild way) about keeping the car in good shape to make my time with the car more pleasurable and when (if) it comes time to get rid of the car I can show prospective buyers the car has had good care. This mitigates to some extent the miles.

Find a car you like. Find a good car, in good condition with no issues and taken care of in such a way it is not likey to develop any issues other than those that arise from wear/tear items.

Buy the car but do not overpay for the car. Drive the car. Take care of the car. When (if) it comes times to sell the car the depreciation will be as low as it can be.