Discussion
I have read the ongoing feud re 996 vs 993. Early 996's are, for me becoming more attractive. I like the Amber's , the clean lines and the fact they are so cheap. The 3.4 received rave reviews when new as well. A nice, well maintained car that preferably had a manual gearbox and one pair of cheeks sitting in it from new is an appealing, if unlikely purchase. Certainly as I could buy two of that car and have change for what my 993 is likely worth.
Anyway, I don't want to praise or bash either car. More interested in discussing the next 993 which is, surely, going to be the 997 gen 2. The 993 was made between 94 and 98 ( I know some 993s were registered in 99 but don't split hairs) and is " perceived" as the evolution of the breed. Prices high, years later for the look, heritage and the rareness. You can't argue with limited supply, it keeps values high.
The 997 gen 2 has much of the look of the 993. The modern dash with integrated phone and nav, with a proper exhaust from the factory, faster and more economical. These were also made for a relatively brief period as per 993's just 3 or 4 years. They benefit from the newer engines so the m96 dramas are no more and the Carrera qualifies for, relatively, cheap tax.
In a few years these are the cars 911 hunters will want the most. Discuss....
Anyway, I don't want to praise or bash either car. More interested in discussing the next 993 which is, surely, going to be the 997 gen 2. The 993 was made between 94 and 98 ( I know some 993s were registered in 99 but don't split hairs) and is " perceived" as the evolution of the breed. Prices high, years later for the look, heritage and the rareness. You can't argue with limited supply, it keeps values high.
The 997 gen 2 has much of the look of the 993. The modern dash with integrated phone and nav, with a proper exhaust from the factory, faster and more economical. These were also made for a relatively brief period as per 993's just 3 or 4 years. They benefit from the newer engines so the m96 dramas are no more and the Carrera qualifies for, relatively, cheap tax.
In a few years these are the cars 911 hunters will want the most. Discuss....
johnycarrera said:
Just my opinion but if the 997 is ever worth decent money it will only be the Mezger engined ones regardless of DFI reliability.
I would agree with this, even though I own a 997.1 C2SI think the 993 will always demand good money (for good examples) and the 996 and 997 (except GT* cars) will never be in the same league.
Shhhhh. I have an eye out for a tidy 3.4, ambers, 17s, black or midnight/ocean blue, sensible miles.
They were built in decent numbers, but the 3.4s were only built for a few years and most are leggy and tired.
I want one because I want one, but the more I look the more I reckon good ones are rare and won't be cheap forever.
They were built in decent numbers, but the 3.4s were only built for a few years and most are leggy and tired.
I want one because I want one, but the more I look the more I reckon good ones are rare and won't be cheap forever.
MrCooke said:
Shhhhh. I have an eye out for a tidy 3.4, ambers, 17s, black or midnight/ocean blue, sensible miles.
They were built in decent numbers, but the 3.4s were only built for a few years and most are leggy and tired.
I want one because I want one, but the more I look the more I reckon good ones are rare and won't be cheap forever.
Agreed!They were built in decent numbers, but the 3.4s were only built for a few years and most are leggy and tired.
I want one because I want one, but the more I look the more I reckon good ones are rare and won't be cheap forever.
fastgerman said:
The next 993?
So a Porsche that is slow and heavy - Cayenne Diesel?
Agreed my wifes C2S tip felt heavy and slow compared to my 993GT2 but I expected that. So a Porsche that is slow and heavy - Cayenne Diesel?
I've seen you like the old stuff. I guess you had a duff experience.
A 993 turbo 4 feels a lot lighter than a 964 3.6 turbo but it isn't as we know it weighs a fair bit more. I guess that has a lot to do with the feel through the steering.
A very good friend of a mate wanted to by a 993 a good few years ago but he did not know exactly what he wanted. We went to Paragon, good friends of mine and he drove six different 993's. 2's and 4's, cab's and a targa. All narrow bodied mind. They just gave me the keys and let me and Bob get on with it. He bought a manual 993 Carrera 4 in the end as that is what he felt most comfortable in.
As I have said before the quickest normally aspirated 911 I have ever driven, bog standard was a pre varioram 993 tiptronic. It absolutely flew.
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