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They all look real to me.
But look at early race cars , ok the 917 and where the engine is.
Now look at the 918 and where the engine is.
Then think what can I buy with normal money with normal shocks and mid engine.
Only one car springs to mind, the Boxster Spyder ;-).
But I also own a 996 GT3 to keep my bases covered lol
I think both are the last of the real fun drivers cars, some thing today's models have lost.
But look at early race cars , ok the 917 and where the engine is.
Now look at the 918 and where the engine is.
Then think what can I buy with normal money with normal shocks and mid engine.
Only one car springs to mind, the Boxster Spyder ;-).
But I also own a 996 GT3 to keep my bases covered lol
I think both are the last of the real fun drivers cars, some thing today's models have lost.
Edited by mrdemon on Sunday 18th November 21:38
I think from a drivers point of view yes because it represented the pinnacle at end of an era where Porsche seeked to provide chasis communication as the only driver aid (other than limited slip diff and abs). This is what sets any 996GT3 apart from anything that will follow them. To me they are the best 911's ever produced by Porsche and currently a bargain.
Having been lucky enough to drive just about every modern Porsche, the car that stands out to me Is the CGT. It really is a beautifully balanced and intensely rewarding car to drive. I probably had my biggest ever 'moment' in one at Lemans Bugatti when it went into oversteer at nearly 160 mph just past the pit straight before the braking zone to the complex. It is testament to the benign nature of the chasis that it only needed a reasonably simple correction to straighten and settle it enough to make the complex. I honestly believe that any other car and I probably wouldn't be here now.
Having been lucky enough to drive just about every modern Porsche, the car that stands out to me Is the CGT. It really is a beautifully balanced and intensely rewarding car to drive. I probably had my biggest ever 'moment' in one at Lemans Bugatti when it went into oversteer at nearly 160 mph just past the pit straight before the braking zone to the complex. It is testament to the benign nature of the chasis that it only needed a reasonably simple correction to straighten and settle it enough to make the complex. I honestly believe that any other car and I probably wouldn't be here now.
jackal said:
Is the 996 RS the greatest, most real porsche of the modern age ? If not, then what is and why ?
I would have to agree thats why i bought one..i sold my 964 T to buy an RS a year or so ago as i think they stand out as the best value 911 out there taking into account the scarcity(especially of good ones)and the abilities of the car,certainly when compared with the majority of the air-cooled cars that now command big money.IMO its a similar situation to 5 or 6 years ago when 964 turbos/964rs 's were fairly cheap and plentiful then suddenley they become fashionable(especially in the Far East)..i think a similar situation will happen again its just a question of time taking into account the cost of a new Rs now..which although clearly a superior/faster car doesnt necessarily mean its better/more fun to drive...all imo of course and talking my own book.
Steve Rance said:
I think from a drivers point of view yes because it represented the pinnacle at end of an era where Porsche seeked to provide chasis communication as the only driver aid (other than limited slip diff and abs). This is what sets any 996GT3 apart from anything that will follow them. To me they are the best 911's ever produced by Porsche and currently a bargain.
I would also have to agree. Having driven later variants of RSs, I believe the 996RS hits a particular sweet spot for an old school (but bloody quick!) driving experience. The level of connectivity with the driver and controls feel better to me then the later versions.Of course, the later version are also brilliant cars. However, for most people an RS is not their only car and therefore, it needs to be very special for that special occasion. I therefore cannot agree with people who talk the 996RS down as a track only car. Its a great weekend car to enjoy a pure driving experience. The base 996 GT3 is not very far off either - the 996 RS provides more visual drama and I also found that the 996 RS is comparatively more controllable mid corner than the 996 GT3. I appreciate a lot of this can be geo related. Some of the more experienced drivers can confirm whether there is more to this than just geo.
996 GT3RS is a great car, still feels fast and communicates with the driver so well. On or close to the limit it just works and is a pleasure to pilot. These cars have held value well, but are still a bargain compared to some of the earlier air cooled cars. I am biased as I have one, but to put it into context, I think I would sell my 4.0 before the 996RS and that is high praise indeed!
GT3RS said:
996 GT3RS is a great car, still feels fast and communicates with the driver so well. On or close to the limit it just works and is a pleasure to pilot. These cars have held value well, but are still a bargain compared to some of the earlier air cooled cars. I am biased as I have one, but to put it into context, I think I would sell my 4.0 before the 996RS and that is high praise indeed!
Worst ' I've got a 4.0 RS' post ever !
depends for me whether its road or track. i had one, didnt enjoy much the RS on the road tbh, sold it got a 996gt3 mk1 again , CS this time. for the road thats my fav. for the track gt3RS i suppose every time, just dont do much trackwork. did a one to one driving thing at millbrook recently in the CS and it was brilliant ! shame i cant start it though....thats another thread !
rathur said:
depends for me whether its road or track. i had one, didnt enjoy much the RS on the road tbh, sold it got a 996gt3 mk1 again , CS this time. for the road thats my fav. for the track gt3RS i suppose every time, just dont do much trackwork. did a one to one driving thing at millbrook recently in the CS and it was brilliant ! shame i cant start it though....thats another thread !
+1it is a misconception that they are much stiffer than other 996Gt3's. They just give a little more feedback. Some read this as stiff or uncompromising but it really isn't. the trick is to learn to only act upon the information and feed back that you that you need to. Like all other 996Gt3's they are fine on the road. The track beast only label is as silly as the GT2's widow maker status.
Steve Rance said:
it is a misconception that they are much stiffer than other 996Gt3's. They just give a little more feedback. Some read this as stiff or uncompromising but it really isn't. the trick is to learn to only act upon the information and feed back that you that you need to. Like all other 996Gt3's they are fine on the road. The track beast only label is as silly as the GT2's widow maker status.
Steve, my question is the one that has been asked so many times before. If I were to move up from a perfect GT3 Mk2 which I am really happy with, as it has buckets, decent brakes and with my limited track experience and minimal road use to a RS, what would I gain?
Steve Rance said:
it is a misconception that they are much stiffer than other 996Gt3's. They just give a little more feedback. Some read this as stiff or uncompromising but it really isn't. the trick is to learn to only act upon the information and feed back that you that you need to. Like all other 996Gt3's they are fine on the road. The track beast only label is as silly as the GT2's widow maker status.
Totally agree (having owned both 996 GT3 and 996 GT3 RS)Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff