Its irritating me....
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Upatdawn said:
My Finepicx HS30EXR is a "bridge" camera which (i think) means i am looking at a lcd image even through the viewfinder?
what Nikon/Canon DSLR cameras are actual prism SLR where i see the actual image in my eyepiece?
The vast majority of DSLR cameras have an optical view finder. It's only these newer micro/compact system things that dont as they do away with the mirror. One of the many reasons I will never own one.what Nikon/Canon DSLR cameras are actual prism SLR where i see the actual image in my eyepiece?
.. Their older ones have proper view finders though, the Axxx's.LocoBlade said:
MysteryLemon said:
The vast majority of DSLR cameras have an optical view finder. It's only these newer micro/compact system things that dont as they do away with the mirror. One of the many reasons I will never own one.
Most Sony "DSLRs" have an EVF with no mirrorThe EVFs on the new DSLTs divide opinions. Those on the higher end models have in fact been rather well received, those on the basic models are less well thought of (the A3x range mentioned on this topic are the entry level).
Of the Nikons, some of the viewfinders show less than 100% of the view. Bit pointless - especially in this digital age! But some of the pentaprisms also foul (or fowl as I managed to put it t'other day) the workings of a TS lens (luckily I don't use them - work of the devil!)
None of the Nikon viewfinders are brilliant when it comes to manual focussing - although a few have interchangeable focussing screens, none of the standard screens are anything like as good as "old-school" fresnel and split screens.
Some models (certainly my old D2X and my current D800) allow for replacing the eyepiece with a DK17M to give a slightly magnified view, which helps (as does an eyecup (DK-19 IIRC))
Ironically, when working on a tripod, I find the EVF useful for manual focus, especially for Macro and at low angles - but it IS an annoyingly slow option, and a good viewfinder with the right information is a godsend!
Don't know if Canonites suffer as badly as Nikon make us do!?!
None of the Nikon viewfinders are brilliant when it comes to manual focussing - although a few have interchangeable focussing screens, none of the standard screens are anything like as good as "old-school" fresnel and split screens.
Some models (certainly my old D2X and my current D800) allow for replacing the eyepiece with a DK17M to give a slightly magnified view, which helps (as does an eyecup (DK-19 IIRC))
Ironically, when working on a tripod, I find the EVF useful for manual focus, especially for Macro and at low angles - but it IS an annoyingly slow option, and a good viewfinder with the right information is a godsend!
Don't know if Canonites suffer as badly as Nikon make us do!?!
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Nikon/Canon, as i understand it one has cheaper lens with more availability as the lens has the AF motor, which is it?
and i dont like small cameras, my hands are too big, id LIKE something like a "pro"? D3 or DX (i think thats right) or a canon but they have a 5 and 6 series at almost the same price (£450-£650)
Nikon/Canon, as i understand it one has cheaper lens with more availability as the lens has the AF motor, which is it?
and i dont like small cameras, my hands are too big, id LIKE something like a "pro"? D3 or DX (i think thats right) or a canon but they have a 5 and 6 series at almost the same price (£450-£650)
Upatdawn said:
My Finepicx HS30EXR is a "bridge" camera which (i think) means i am looking at a lcd image even through the viewfinder?
what Nikon/Canon DSLR cameras are actual prism SLR where i see the actual image in my eyepiece?
Bridge simply means that it's conceptually in between a compact camera and a full SLR. I don't think it really has any bearing on the viewfinder.what Nikon/Canon DSLR cameras are actual prism SLR where i see the actual image in my eyepiece?
Good EVFs are very good these days and the WYSIWYG view is very useful. Bad ones however are terrible.
Upatdawn said:
Nikon/Canon, as i understand it one has cheaper lens with more availability as the lens has the AF motor, which is it?
Entry level Nikon bodies don't have a focus motor. This means that for autofocus you need a lens designated 'AF-S' (in reality this is of little concern as most Nikon lenses are AF-S now)Upatdawn said:
and i dont like small cameras, my hands are too big, id LIKE something like a "pro"? D3 or DX (i think thats right) or a canon but they have a 5 and 6 series at almost the same price (£450-£650)
Bricks are expensive, but one option if you don't need 'pro' performance is to buy a lesser body and add a grip underneath.marctwo said:
Bridge simply means that it's conceptually in between a compact camera and a full SLR. I don't think it really has any bearing on the viewfinder.
AFAIK bridge cameras don't have a pentaprism so can't have an optical VF, merely a telly that takes a feed from the sensor. I think. Many makers of bridge cameras add a lump on top to make them *look* like a DSLR, but don't be fooled.Simpo Two said:
marctwo said:
Bridge simply means that it's conceptually in between a compact camera and a full SLR. I don't think it really has any bearing on the viewfinder.
AFAIK bridge cameras don't have a pentaprism so can't have an optical VF, merely a telly that takes a feed from the sensor. I think. Many makers of bridge cameras add a lump on top to make them *look* like a DSLR, but don't be fooled.- Thread highjack*
Upatdawn said:
My Finepicx HS30EXR is a "bridge" camera ....
I'm glad I popped into this thread as I am thinking of getting the HS30EXR...what do you think of it? Im quite happy with the sample pictures I have seen so far, but I am after the opinon of someone who owns one! What are the quality of the pictures like?
Bearing in mind all I would photograph is scenery and the baby, what do you think??
MysteryLemon said:
The vast majority of DSLR cameras have an optical view finder. It's only these newer micro/compact system things that dont as they do away with the mirror. One of the many reasons I will never own one.
If you tried one of the high end compact system things like the Olympus OM-D or Fuji X series you might change your mind about EVFs and start to wonder if you really need a DSLR 
extraT said:
I'm glad I popped into this thread as I am thinking of getting the HS30EXR...what do you think of it?
Im quite happy with the sample pictures I have seen so far, but I am after the opinon of someone who owns one! What are the quality of the pictures like?
Bearing in mind all I would photograph is scenery and the baby, what do you think??
mmmmmmmIm quite happy with the sample pictures I have seen so far, but I am after the opinon of someone who owns one! What are the quality of the pictures like?
Bearing in mind all I would photograph is scenery and the baby, what do you think??
well I had a S9500 before, its LCD screen was smaller but i found (for me) the thing worked better, maybe im just being a bit "i want a nikon"....
my "baby's" dont always sit still....
im more bill bailey than david bailey - more constipation than composition
Edited by Upatdawn on Wednesday 14th November 18:50
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