HMS Bounty sinks
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20124128
Hope they find the 2 missing crew. What a pounding the East Coast is taking...
Hope they find the 2 missing crew. What a pounding the East Coast is taking...
I too hope the missing crew are found although I wouldn't fancy their chances from a purely mathematical point of view, but that's no reason to give up trying.
I can't help but wonder what it was doing there, since there has been so much notice about the hurricane on it's way. I'd like to think the Captain made the best decisions possible along the way, or at least I hope he did for his own sake particularly if those missing crew are dead. Fingers crossed for all involved and families on shore.
I can't help but wonder what it was doing there, since there has been so much notice about the hurricane on it's way. I'd like to think the Captain made the best decisions possible along the way, or at least I hope he did for his own sake particularly if those missing crew are dead. Fingers crossed for all involved and families on shore.
RedLeicester said:
Linked article said:
Canadian broadcaster CBC has reported that the ship sank several hours after the evacuation, but Ms Simonin told the BBC that she had not been told this by the coastguard.
"The last we heard the ship was still upright," she said.
Not very sunk then."The last we heard the ship was still upright," she said.
I can't imagine there are many out there checking up in this right now, I guess we'll hear more tomorrow.
Very sad though, there's a very funny story in David Niven's autobiography about this ship.
That's the Marlon Brando "Mutiny on the Bounty" film replica not the later steel hulled replica built for the 1984 (Mel Gibson) film - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_%281960_ship%2...
Makes me wonder what it was doing out at the time - "Bounty's owners have tried, unsuccessfully, to sell the vessel since 2010. The ship was for sale as of 2012 for US$4.6 million"
Makes me wonder what it was doing out at the time - "Bounty's owners have tried, unsuccessfully, to sell the vessel since 2010. The ship was for sale as of 2012 for US$4.6 million"
It's not the first big sailing craft to try to out run a hurricane. The "Fantome" tried to dodge Mitch a few years ago.
From Wiki......
Loss.
On October 24, 1998, Fantome departed the harbor of Omoa in Honduras for a planned 6 day cruise. Hurricane Mitch, then over 1,000 miles away in the Caribbean Sea, was expected to pose a risk to Jamaica and possibly the Yucatan Peninsula. Captain Guyan March decided to play it safe by heading for the Bay Islands and wait for the storm to pass.
By dawn on the following day, however, Mitch seemed to change course. Fantome immediately changed course for Belize City, where it disembarked all of her passengers and non-essential crew members. The ship then departed Belize City, first heading north towards the Gulf of Mexico, in order to outrun the storm. Storm predictions proved extremely difficult, as the steering currents in Hurricane Mitch were very weak. When word reached the Fantome that Mitch would most likely hit the Yucatán before she could get out of harm's way, Capt. March changed course for the south. It was too early to know that he was heading directly into the storm's path.
The plan was to make for the lee side of the island of Roatan. In case Mitch made landfall in the Yucatán or Belize, by being on the southern side of the island, it would provide the ship with enough protection to keep it from getting damaged by large swells and high winds. However, Mitch, now a Category 5 hurricane with winds up to 185 miles-per-hour, took a jog towards the south, directly towards Roatan.
As Mitch moved in on Roatan and Honduras, Fantome made one desperate attempt to flee to safety, now heading east towards the Caribbean. Mitch's forward motion picked up, though, and Fantome was unable to outrun the storm. Around 4:30 P.M. on October 27, 1998, Fantome reported that it was fighting 100 mile-per-hour winds in 40-foot seas. They were just 40 miles south of Mitch's 155 mile-per-hour eyewall. Radio contact was lost with Fantome shortly after that.
On November 2, a helicopter dispatched by the British destroyer HMS Sheffield discovered life rafts and vests, labeled "S/V Fantome," off the eastern coast of Guanaja. It was all that was found of the Fantome.
From Wiki......
Loss.
On October 24, 1998, Fantome departed the harbor of Omoa in Honduras for a planned 6 day cruise. Hurricane Mitch, then over 1,000 miles away in the Caribbean Sea, was expected to pose a risk to Jamaica and possibly the Yucatan Peninsula. Captain Guyan March decided to play it safe by heading for the Bay Islands and wait for the storm to pass.
By dawn on the following day, however, Mitch seemed to change course. Fantome immediately changed course for Belize City, where it disembarked all of her passengers and non-essential crew members. The ship then departed Belize City, first heading north towards the Gulf of Mexico, in order to outrun the storm. Storm predictions proved extremely difficult, as the steering currents in Hurricane Mitch were very weak. When word reached the Fantome that Mitch would most likely hit the Yucatán before she could get out of harm's way, Capt. March changed course for the south. It was too early to know that he was heading directly into the storm's path.
The plan was to make for the lee side of the island of Roatan. In case Mitch made landfall in the Yucatán or Belize, by being on the southern side of the island, it would provide the ship with enough protection to keep it from getting damaged by large swells and high winds. However, Mitch, now a Category 5 hurricane with winds up to 185 miles-per-hour, took a jog towards the south, directly towards Roatan.
As Mitch moved in on Roatan and Honduras, Fantome made one desperate attempt to flee to safety, now heading east towards the Caribbean. Mitch's forward motion picked up, though, and Fantome was unable to outrun the storm. Around 4:30 P.M. on October 27, 1998, Fantome reported that it was fighting 100 mile-per-hour winds in 40-foot seas. They were just 40 miles south of Mitch's 155 mile-per-hour eyewall. Radio contact was lost with Fantome shortly after that.
On November 2, a helicopter dispatched by the British destroyer HMS Sheffield discovered life rafts and vests, labeled "S/V Fantome," off the eastern coast of Guanaja. It was all that was found of the Fantome.
It wasn't a frigate, it was a small merchant vessel purchased by the Royal Navy and classified as an Armed Vessel. It was unrated so held no RN class. The abbreviation HMS has only been in use since 1789 so before the mutiny the ship would never have been called HMS Bounty, or HMAV Bounty, those terms were only used post-mutiny of 1789 and in the transcript of the 1792 trial of the ten crewmen returned on HMS Pandora.
Ps. It would have been His Majesty's Ship, or Her Majesty's Ship or Their Majesty's Ship in the case of William & Mary.
Ps. It would have been His Majesty's Ship, or Her Majesty's Ship or Their Majesty's Ship in the case of William & Mary.
Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 29th October 20:00
A female crew member of the storm-hit tall sailing ship HMS Bounty has been pronounced dead in hospital after being rescued at sea.
Officials said the woman, Claudene Christian, 42, had been unresponsive when taken from the water in a dramatic helicopter rescue.
The ship's captain is still missing, but 14 crew members were rescued.
The ship, which was built for the 1962 film Mutiny on the Bounty, is thought to have sunk.
The Bounty was off North Carolina, approximately 160 miles (250km) west of the eye of storm Sandy, when it began taking on water on Sunday night.
Officials said the woman, Claudene Christian, 42, had been unresponsive when taken from the water in a dramatic helicopter rescue.
The ship's captain is still missing, but 14 crew members were rescued.
The ship, which was built for the 1962 film Mutiny on the Bounty, is thought to have sunk.
The Bounty was off North Carolina, approximately 160 miles (250km) west of the eye of storm Sandy, when it began taking on water on Sunday night.
Fittster said:
A female crew member of the storm-hit tall sailing ship HMS Bounty has been pronounced dead in hospital after being rescued at sea.
Officials said the woman, Claudene Christian, 42, had been unresponsive when taken from the water in a dramatic helicopter rescue.
The ship's captain is still missing, but 14 crew members were rescued.
The ship, which was built for the 1962 film Mutiny on the Bounty, is thought to have sunk.
The Bounty was off North Carolina, approximately 160 miles (250km) west of the eye of storm Sandy, when it began taking on water on Sunday night.
Not trying to be funny, but was that really her name? An ancestor of Fletcher?Officials said the woman, Claudene Christian, 42, had been unresponsive when taken from the water in a dramatic helicopter rescue.
The ship's captain is still missing, but 14 crew members were rescued.
The ship, which was built for the 1962 film Mutiny on the Bounty, is thought to have sunk.
The Bounty was off North Carolina, approximately 160 miles (250km) west of the eye of storm Sandy, when it began taking on water on Sunday night.
matchmaker said:
Fittster said:
A female crew member of the storm-hit tall sailing ship HMS Bounty has been pronounced dead in hospital after being rescued at sea.
Officials said the woman, Claudene Christian, 42, had been unresponsive when taken from the water in a dramatic helicopter rescue.
The ship's captain is still missing, but 14 crew members were rescued.
The ship, which was built for the 1962 film Mutiny on the Bounty, is thought to have sunk.
The Bounty was off North Carolina, approximately 160 miles (250km) west of the eye of storm Sandy, when it began taking on water on Sunday night.
Not trying to be funny, but was that really her name? An ancestor of Fletcher?Officials said the woman, Claudene Christian, 42, had been unresponsive when taken from the water in a dramatic helicopter rescue.
The ship's captain is still missing, but 14 crew members were rescued.
The ship, which was built for the 1962 film Mutiny on the Bounty, is thought to have sunk.
The Bounty was off North Carolina, approximately 160 miles (250km) west of the eye of storm Sandy, when it began taking on water on Sunday night.
http://ancestraldiscoveries.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10...
RedLeicester said:
Linked article said:
Canadian broadcaster CBC has reported that the ship sank several hours after the evacuation, but Ms Simonin told the BBC that she had not been told this by the coastguard.
"The last we heard the ship was still upright," she said.
Not very sunk then."The last we heard the ship was still upright," she said.
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