Body fat % - what is a good target?
Body fat % - what is a good target?
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DrMekon

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2,493 posts

245 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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I had a DEXA scan the other day, and was chuffed to get a result of 7.3% total body fat (that's with me weighing 3kg more than when I was training hard last summer), having had a Tanita tell me I was over 11%. Then I read Tyler Hamilton's book - sub 4%! Nuts.

I was BMI 19.X when I was scanned, and I know as I get sub 19, I have to work really hard to keep the weight off. I've assumed it's because very low body fat isn't that good. What is a sensible target for a cyclist?

CoolC

4,500 posts

243 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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I think the top pro's are down under 5% but I'd say (with VERY little knowledge on the subject) anything below 10% is great.

I'll await the answers from those with more knowledge with interest though.

mcelliott

10,494 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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All depends on what body type you are, but as cycling is mostly about power to weight ratio the less 'timber' you're carrying the better. I'm roughly 7% at 74 kgs (height 5ft 8). Anything less than 5 or 6% would be unhealthy in my opinion.

Maxymillion

491 posts

253 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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I have been sub 5 % a few times. But now, with a change of sports, this is no longer necessary or desired. Being at this level of leanness has various side effects, Anything between 8 and 15 percent is fine, all depends on you and how well you feel you function. If you function at your particular sport/lifestyle at a higher body fat, then by all means go higher.

VerbalKent

299 posts

236 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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I think anything under 4% is dangerous as the body needs a minimum amount of fat to function properly. I remember reading Nicolas Roaches book and he mentioned that he was about 6% body fat. Last time I looked I was around 14% which is okay I think. If your into single figures then you probably fall into the athlete category.

Jayfish

6,795 posts

232 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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VerbalKent said:
I think anything under 4% is dangerous as the body needs a minimum amount of fat to function properly. I remember reading Nicolas Roaches book and he mentioned that he was about 6% body fat. Last time I looked I was around 14% which is okay I think. If your into single figures then you probably fall into the athlete category.
I'm 8% and I'm no athlete I'm just st at eating smile

T5SOR

2,030 posts

254 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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No idea, but I think around 10-15%. Problem is I like alcohol too much hehe

Jayfish

6,795 posts

232 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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swerni said:
Jayfish said:
VerbalKent said:
I think anything under 4% is dangerous as the body needs a minimum amount of fat to function properly. I remember reading Nicolas Roaches book and he mentioned that he was about 6% body fat. Last time I looked I was around 14% which is okay I think. If your into single figures then you probably fall into the athlete category.
I'm 8% and I'm no athlete I'm just st at eating smile
You look much more than that wink
That just goes to show how many layers I had on smile

burriana

16,556 posts

283 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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Everyone is different and it is all subjective but, as ever, Google is your friend

If you look at these these photographic examples

at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!



DrMekon

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2,493 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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No, definitely not more ripped than our oily friend. The ultrasound I had done said there was about 6mm of sub-cutaneous fat around my abdomen, so if there was something there, it should show. But there's not. The dexa showed that I have more gynoid (bottom) than android (top) fat, which probably explains why a couple of colleagues came out with ~3mm sub cut abdomen fat, but higher total body fat %.

Looking at those pictures, I'm definitely leaner than the 10-12% picture, but nothing like that 7% picture.

I've taken on another cyclist for weight loss coaching to see if the techniques I've used are useful for others. It'll be interesting to see if it works for them.

billzeebub

3,911 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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not a lot of the 'middle aged Lycra enthusiasts around my village getting near 10%!..most seem to be hovering around the 100% mark! #Icansqueezeintothat

AyBee

11,321 posts

231 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Depends what kind of cyclist you are. I'll never be particularly light but I'm also not really a climber a-la Wiggo etc. I'd be interested to know what % Cav is since I'm very similar in build to Cav. Also, what % are Hoy & Kenny?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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burriana said:
Everyone is different and it is all subjective but, as ever, Google is your friend

If you look at these these photographic examples

at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
With the greatest respect, using photographic examples is pure bks. Google TOFI. Measuring body fat really needs to be done using MRI.

Here's a summary though http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2006/dec/10/medi...

yellowjack

18,442 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Body fat % - what is a good target?

I've no idea about percentages, but so long as I can see my feet, and reach down to tie my shoe laces, that'll do for me. burgerbigmouth

dubbs

1,599 posts

313 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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One of the most accurate ways is to use a BodPod.... look 'em up as I sued one in Euston last year a couple of times to see how I got on during reasonably intensive training for a busy year of events.

This year I've done nothing and it's all gone piling back on!!!

burriana

16,556 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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rhinochopig said:
burriana said:
Everyone is different and it is all subjective but, as ever, Google is your friend

If you look at these these photographic examples

at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
With the greatest respect, using photographic examples is pure bks.
No it's not. It may only be a "rough" guide, but it is not, as you say "pure bks". I know from experience that someone who has a body fat of only 7% is going to look pretty damned ripped, whereas someone at around 12-14% will look toned but not with prominent abs showing. These photographs seem to mirror that "rough" guide and are a simple quick reference.

If you want definitive then yes, you have to have it done in a proper scientific way by someone who knows what they are doing.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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burriana said:
rhinochopig said:
burriana said:
Everyone is different and it is all subjective but, as ever, Google is your friend

If you look at these these photographic examples

at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
With the greatest respect, using photographic examples is pure bks.
No it's not. It may only be a "rough" guide, but it is not, as you say "pure bks". I know from experience that someone who has a body fat of only 7% is going to look pretty damned ripped, whereas someone at around 12-14% will look toned but not with prominent abs showing. These photographs seem to mirror that "rough" guide and are a simple quick reference.

If you want definitive then yes, you have to have it done in a proper scientific way by someone who knows what they are doing.
Apologies, using 'bks' was probably a bit strong.

But I would caution the use of photos even as a guide as the example you give is not always the case. It depends on your muskuloskeletal system, i.e. ectormorphic, mesomorphic, or endomorphic.

I can give you a practical example, when I was rowing seriously, I was around the 85-90 kilo weight (for 6'5") and had a resting HR of <40 and a max of 210 and a BF% of around 10%. You could see every sinew and muscle fibre in my legs and arms and yet my stomach, because I have a huge rib case (pigeon/barrel chested), never ever showed a 6 pack - just two strips of muscle - and this is despite doing thousands of sit-ups of all types. Most of my 'excess' fat seemed to be stored around my stomach. To look at those pics my stomach would have put me at the 20-25% level - or 100% out.

burriana

16,556 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Hell! < 40bpm is seriously healthy! The lowest I ever got when I was racing was mid-50s.

Yours is a very specific situation and I know what you mean about abs. I do 200 sit-ups a day mixed between upper, lower and side and the abs are just starting to show slightly.

As a rule of thumb, to answer the original question what is a good body fat %. very generally I would say that (to a normal bloke): 15% is pretty good - 12% is very good - and anything in single figures is getting towards ripped status and will make most of the other blokes on the beach jealous! smile