Another helicopter down in the North Sea
Another helicopter down in the North Sea
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Grant76

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1,381 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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matchmaker

9,033 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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There is no mention of the Sumburgh SAR helicopter being scrambled - could it be that IT has ditched as only the Aith, Lerwick and Kirkwall lifeboats are mentioned?

chrisj_abz

807 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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reported by an STV reported on twitter to be 19 persons onboard so sounds more like a normal rig flight, hope everyones ok..


Donald J MacDonaldþ@DJMacDSTV

Major rescue operation underway after a north sea helicopter with 19 people on board ditches 15 miles off Fair Isle.

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

243 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Jesus. Fingers crossed.

chrisj_abz

807 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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tweet from a local radio station sounds promising...


Northsound 1þ@northsound1

All 19 people on board ditched chopper have been rescued by lifeboats.

hbzboy

444 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Spent 5 1/2 hrs trying to get to the alwyn with 2 pit stops to the sedeco 714 for additional fuel to keep trying to land some very heavy localised fog in some areas. 8:00 check in and a night in Abz awaits now though.

chrisj_abz

807 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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been confirmed by the coastguard that all persons on board have been rescued, apparently a controlled ditching.

matchmaker

9,033 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Another fking Super Puma rolleyesrolleyes

At least all safe - picked by fast rescue boat from a nearby tanker smilesmile

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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matchmaker said:
Another fking Super Puma rolleyesrolleyes

At least all safe - picked by fast rescue boat from a nearby tanker smilesmile
FRC's are worth their weight in gold, IMHO.

Siko

2,065 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Doh. Good they all got out safely though. Is this the wrong time to be seriously considering becoming a North Sea helicopter pilot ?! scratchchin

SVX

2,188 posts

240 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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What is it about the Super Puma? - these seem to fall out of the sky with alarming regularity.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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SVX said:
What is it about the Super Puma? - these seem to fall out of the sky with alarming regularity.
I wouldn't underestimate how many flying hours these things do whilst on the North Sea jobs. Many of the faults have been MR gearbox failures. If you consider the stress that these things are under day in, day out then it's not surprising when the thing is going 19 to the dozen that some of them fall out of the sky, even with expert maintenance. Lets see what the results of the inspection reveal on this one assuming that the hull is recovered.

ETA: it doesn't help that when they do go down the only place for them to go is the North Sea so of course everyone hears about it. As well it is better to ditch it whilst you can control the outcome than to wait for the thing to explode and definitely kill everyone.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 24th October 08:02

JoeBolt

284 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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To say an aircraft has "fallen out of the sky" following an on-water landing under full control is complete over-exaggeration.

There has only been one "fallen out of the sky" Puma crash in recent years in the North Sea following a MRGB failure. (Bond AS332L2 G-REDL on 01 Apr 09)

Other recent incidents involving Puma types: -
One inadvertent ditching due to pilot error.
Two controlled on-water landings.



Edited by JoeBolt on Wednesday 24th October 12:56

telecat

8,528 posts

270 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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It's an area with lots of "Traffic" much of it Super Puma's. IF a Helicopter goes down it's pretty much going to be a AS332.

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Quite right.

These helicopters are operating constantly, round the clock. The operators will be very prudent with safety, and if the crew are in anyway concerned about an issue they will consider a precautionary landing, or even ditching. Pilots and px are trained for this eventuality.


vtgts300kw

640 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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SVX said:
What is it about the Super Puma? - these seem to fall out of the sky with alarming regularity.
I'd say pending an investigation, the helicopter has performed rather well.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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JoeBolt said:
One inadvertent ditching due to pilot error.
As a matter of interest how does pilot error end up in ditching the aircraft?

chrisj_abz

807 posts

214 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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think with that one the pilot had his altimiter warning set wrongly and in patchy fog landed on the water when he thought he was landing on the deck.

hearing this latest one was similar to the last controlled ditching in May where the pilots had an indication of a gearbox issue and went for a controlled ditching. After the fatal crash i guess pilots are erring on the side of caution.

JoeBolt

284 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Bond EC225 G-REDU 18 Feb 2009.

Correct. The pilots also became disorientated by the reflection of lights on the water, near to the BP platform they were intending to land on.

Thought they were landing on the heli-deck, ended up landing in the sea.

westtra

1,542 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th October 2012
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Is it me or are CHC being less forthcoming with info than bond where a few months ago?

It does seem now that its get it on deck/water ASAP after the Miller crash. Would rather that than another crash.

With regards to the ETAP ditching the alarm for altitude failed/was turned off and as someone said they thought they had landed on the helideck hard until water was round there feet.