Anyone know the origin of the word 'bint' ...

Anyone know the origin of the word 'bint' ...

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JasonS8

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395 posts

273 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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...often used in these forums to refer to women/girls?

Just curious.

gtir

24,741 posts

272 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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You're right: bint is British slang for a woman or girl, but it is always disparaging and offensive and signals the user as lower class and unrefined. It's also now rather dated.
The word is Arabic for a daughter, specifically one who has yet to bear a child. It was in common use as a slang term during the first and second World Wars among British and Allied servicemen stationed in Egypt and neighbouring countries.

Sir Richard Burton was the first person to use the word in English, in his Personal Narrative of a Pilgrimage to El-Medinah and Meccah in 1855: "'Allah! upon Allah! O daughter!' cry the by-standers, when the obstinate bint of sixty years seizes their hands".

Taken from some website somewhere.

pikey

7,702 posts

290 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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Arabian word for daughter.

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

273 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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Sorry old chap, what, what. I must be unrefined. Chocks away charlie, tallyhoe, what, what.

gtir

24,741 posts

272 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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You bounder!

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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Bint: Bint is a term which dates back to the late 12th Century when a travelling group of folk passed upon a small village cut off from all civilisation. The travellers sought food and rest but were horrified by what they saw. Clearly the small village was in-breeding and the resultant population were disformed in some way or another. The travellers fled, scared of what they saw and being simple folk, they believed the inhabitants of the village to be monsters or the result of voodoo witchcraft. Only when they were a safe distance did they stop and look at their crude map to try and judge where this place of horrors was.
In time to come, the medieval spelling of the village changed but the legend remains.
the follwing link gives a good location of the village

map

Hence why a woman of poor appearence is commonly refered to as a bint.























apologies to anyone living there. this is all made up. i wish my job was this interesting.

>> Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 17th June 11:44

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

273 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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LOL

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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It's Arabic... and I expect a culture that holds women in such high esteem (NOT!) would be disappointed by our appropriation of their word

>> Edited by CarZee on Monday 17th June 12:06

Neil Menzies

5,167 posts

290 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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From "www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?bint"

Main Entry: bint
Pronunciation: 'bint
Function: noun
Etymology: Arabic, girl, daughter
Date: 1855
British : GIRL, WOMAN

They then follow this up with

Get the Top 10 Most Popular Sites for "bint"

wlc

12 posts

276 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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Arabian word for daughter.


Quite correct although, to be precise, it refers to "daughter of" and is followed by the given name of the father. It's still used in the Arab world just as "bin" refers to a son. For example...
Ahmed bin Faisal Al Shafar
or
Leila bint Faisal Al Shafar

gtir

24,741 posts

272 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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quote:

quote:

Arabian word for daughter.


Quite correct although, to be precise, it refers to "daughter of" and is followed by the given name of the father. It's still used in the Arab world just as "bin" refers to a son. For example...
Ahmed bin Faisal Al Shafar
or
Leila bint Faisal Al Shafar



Just like Bin Laden?

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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i thought my explanation was better...........

madmike

2,372 posts

272 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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To state the already stated...

Bint is indeed Arabic for daughter or girl. However, when used for anything other than daughter or a small child (in refering to another somewhat older girl for example) it is a little bit derogatory.

Therefore, the way I've seen you zany Brits use it in these forums is correct useage.

Mad Mike

>> Edited by madmike on Monday 17th June 14:12

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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Zany? Who the fcuk are you? Timmy Mallet

GregE240

10,857 posts

273 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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quote:

Zany? Who the fcuk are you? Timmy Mallet


Bless - still separated by a common language

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

273 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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That's up there with classics like 'snazzy' and 'the bees knees'.

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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Bless - still separated by a common language
You wacky funster, you..

ATG

21,181 posts

278 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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A couple of my mates refer to their girlfriends as "cloth", a contraction of that old favourite "cloth-eared bint".

madmike

2,372 posts

272 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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CarZee,

It was either Zany, or Madcap, I had to make a snap judgement.

I think my favorite expression has to be from the Chuck Heston Movie, Soylent Green, where the house girls were all called "furniture."

Mad Mike

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

277 months

Monday 17th June 2002
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Round my way birds are referred to as "crack". The plural is "clump".