Cayman Advice!
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jonboy_100

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16 posts

232 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Hi Guys,

Hoping to be a Cayman owner soon and looking around for a nice 3.4S version.

Have come across this http://ucl.porsche.de/ucl/plsql/uk/clients.show_ca...

The low milage and the 2yr warrenty are attracting me however just as a sanity check, is this over priced at £27k? The guides point to £21k-£22k.

Any pointers gratefully received!

Thanks,

John.

BubblesNW

1,711 posts

213 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Hi, the Cayman is a great car but for the money I would be looking at a Gen 2 Cayman 2.9.
The engine is bullet-proof and performance is very similar, tax will be a lot less too.
There are at least 3 at OPCs which I would choose ahead of the Gen 1 Cayman S you listed.

Trev450

6,762 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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The link no longer works so am unable to offer any advice to the op.

Deanos CaymanS

143 posts

201 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Saw the link last night but it seems to have expired now. Didn't seem that well optioned for what you rightly point out is strong money.
I'm always keeping an eye on prices as an owner and have seen more desirable options for less money. If you're not in a rush, better choices will come up.

BubblesNW

1,711 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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hus882

166 posts

191 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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BubblesNW said:
That car is significantly over priced for that spec, depending on your budget I would definitely try and get a Gen 2, it has a modified engine, better internal tech (Nav etc) and is more fuel efficient and saves on Tax (a Gen 1 s is £400+).

Gmund

77 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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There's an 09 plate Gen 2 S on Autotrader for under 20k, and there's loads that are newer than the one you're looking at for under 20k too. My advice is to look for a nice private Gen 2 for early 20's, get a 111 point check done with Porsche (PRIOR!) to purchase (£185+VAT), buy it if it's a peach, put a Porsche warranty on it (£800?), then drive the hell out of it with several grand left in the bank for tyres and petrol, both of which they love to consume!

Gmund

77 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Gmund said:
There's an 09 plate Gen 2 S on Autotrader for under 20k, and there's loads that are newer than the one you're looking at for under 20k too. My advice is to look for a nice private Gen 2 for early 20's, get a 111 point check done with Porsche (PRIOR!) to purchase (£185+VAT), buy it if it's a peach, put a Porsche warranty on it (£800?), then drive the hell out of it with several grand left in the bank for tyres and petrol, both of which they love to consume!
Ok, I've been a bit hasty on the pricing, the 09 car I mentioned does seem a little too cheap. But I would still look for a later Gen 1 and do what I said. I would be interested to know about the 09 Gen 2 S that I mention above, maybe it's an earlier car with a conversion, and that guy has "got the year wrong".

hus882

166 posts

191 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Gmund said:
There's an 09 plate Gen 2 S on Autotrader for under 20k, and there's loads that are newer than the one you're looking at for under 20k too. My advice is to look for a nice private Gen 2 for early 20's, get a 111 point check done with Porsche (PRIOR!) to purchase (£185+VAT), buy it if it's a peach, put a Porsche warranty on it (£800?), then drive the hell out of it with several grand left in the bank for tyres and petrol, both of which they love to consume!
I agree with this, budget depending buy one from the classified, get it inspected (independent) and then get a Porsche warranty put on it for a year which you can extend as required. As long as you get a good one - that should be cool, plus you will save a significant amount by not buying from an OPC. You can also get non porsche warranties, there used to be a Tesco (i think!) Gold warranty for circa £480 which was available for a Cayman. Though I am not sure if its still available.

Cheeky plug wink or you could just buy this well cared for example, I know the owner really well!

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

But in all seriousness, decide a budget and a spec, you may not get everything your after but try and tick off as many boxes as possible.

Gmund

77 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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hus882 said:
I agree with this, budget depending buy one from the classified, get it inspected (independent) and then get a Porsche warranty put on it for a year which you can extend as required. As long as you get a good one - that should be cool, plus you will save a significant amount by not buying from an OPC. You can also get non porsche warranties, there used to be a Tesco (i think!) Gold warranty for circa £480 which was available for a Cayman. Though I am not sure if its still available.

Cheeky plug wink or you could just buy this well cared for example, I know the owner really well!

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

But in all seriousness, decide a budget and a spec, you may not get everything your after but try and tick off as many boxes as possible.
I think the 111 point inspection is a prerequisite for a Porsche warranty. If you do go private, I would not buy one without either a pre-purchase inspection, or an existing warranty. OP, if you've not bought a Porsche before, you'll need to do your homework. Everyday items such as brakes, tyres, clutches and exhausts can tear a huge hole in your pocket. For example, my 3.4S needed pads & discs all round and Porsche quoted me £1600. A decent indy would want well over a grand.

hus882

166 posts

191 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Gmund said:
I think the 111 point inspection is a prerequisite for a Porsche warranty. If you do go private, I would not buy one without either a pre-purchase inspection, or an existing warranty. OP, if you've not bought a Porsche before, you'll need to do your homework. Everyday items such as brakes, tyres, clutches and exhausts can tear a huge hole in your pocket. For example, my 3.4S needed pads & discs all round and Porsche quoted me £1600. A decent indy would want well over a grand.
Your right re the Porsche Warranty - 111 point check is compulsory, OP has a couple of choices imo...

1. Get a Porsche warranty, get the Porsche inspection (@OPC) done as part of the agreement with the seller, should give you peace of mind.

2. Dont get a Porsche Warranty, but get a well reputed independent inspection done - will save you some £££s, the inspection should help reassure you as to the condition / quality of the car.

I personally would ALWAYS get a warranty, either ensure the car your buying has one or qualifies.

BTW just had a quick google re a Tesco warranty - it wasnt very good apparently so thats a non starter.

Edited by hus882 on Wednesday 19th September 20:58

BubblesNW

1,711 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Unfortunately no warrantee will prevent or cover you for an engine problem with a Gen 1 Cayman or Cayman S. Given the original budget a Gen 2 Cayman S from an OPC is unlikely. However a non-S from an OPC or a Gen 2 S from outside the OPC network which could be checked either from official 11 point or well respected independant is more than possible. The Gen 2 engines are much more reliable, the interior is nicer but apart from that there is very little between them.

jonboy_100

Original Poster:

16 posts

232 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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cheers guys, appreciate the valuable advice!

ooral

167 posts

252 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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hus882 said:
I agree with this, budget depending buy one from the classified, get it inspected (independent) and then get a Porsche warranty put on it for a year which you can extend as required. As long as you get a good one - that should be cool, plus you will save a significant amount by not buying from an OPC. You can also get non porsche warranties, there used to be a Tesco (i think!) Gold warranty for circa £480 which was available for a Cayman. Though I am not sure if its still available.

Cheeky plug wink or you could just buy this well cared for example, I know the owner really well!

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

But in all seriousness, decide a budget and a spec, you may not get everything your after but try and tick off as many boxes as possible.
I have no connection whatsoever with the poster, but I am a Cayman driver.... This is the one you want! Good spec and price about right, and even though i have silver, Cobalt is one of the nicest colours, all IMHO of course!

Edited by ooral on Wednesday 19th September 22:24

BubblesNW

1,711 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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ooral said:
hus882 said:
I agree with this, budget depending buy one from the classified, get it inspected (independent) and then get a Porsche warranty put on it for a year which you can extend as required. As long as you get a good one - that should be cool, plus you will save a significant amount by not buying from an OPC. You can also get non porsche warranties, there used to be a Tesco (i think!) Gold warranty for circa £480 which was available for a Cayman. Though I am not sure if its still available.

Cheeky plug wink or you could just buy this well cared for example, I know the owner really well!

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

But in all seriousness, decide a budget and a spec, you may not get everything your after but try and tick off as many boxes as possible.
I have no connection whatsoever with the poster, but I am a Cayman driver.... This is the one you want! Good spec and price about right, and even though i have silver, Cobalt is one of the nicest colours, all IMHO of course!

Edited by ooral on Wednesday 19th September 22:24
+1 looks very nice. If it all adds up as good as it looks it's a much better option than the OP's first suggestion.


Edited by BubblesNW on Wednesday 19th September 22:53


Edited by BubblesNW on Wednesday 19th September 22:56

Trev450

6,762 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Gmund said:
my 3.4S needed pads & discs all round and Porsche quoted me £1600. A decent indy would want well over a grand.
I had new disks and pads all round last year and my indy charged me £750 and that was using Pagid parts.

Gio G

2,995 posts

239 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Trev450 said:
I had new disks and pads all round last year and my indy charged me £750 and that was using Pagid parts.
Having just purchased Cayman... Does your warranty become invalid, if an independent changes you pads and disks for geniune Porsche parts?

BTW loving the car!!

Trev450

6,762 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Gio G said:
Having just purchased Cayman... Does your warranty become invalid, if an independent changes you pads and disks for geniune Porsche parts?

BTW loving the car!!
No. So long as OE parts are fitted it won't invalidate your warranty.

hus882

166 posts

191 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Cheers @ Ooral & BubblesNW smile

Re the warranty, if you have parts fitted by a non OPC, I thought Porsche had the right to refuse any warranty work on said areas of the car, or that could have been caused by those parts?

The approved used warranty has changed recently - but its always a little bit uncertain, best to get it in writing from your OPC before getting any work carried out.

BubblesNW

1,711 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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hus882 said:
Cheers @ Ooral & BubblesNW smile

Re the warranty, if you have parts fitted by a non OPC, I thought Porsche had the right to refuse any warranty work on said areas of the car, or that could have been caused by those parts?

The approved used warranty has changed recently - but its always a little bit uncertain, best to get it in writing from your OPC before getting any work carried out.
If they are genuine Porsche parts they will never know. They don't have to be Porsche fitted, just Porsche sourced as far as I am aware. Not all OPCs are connected so how would they know who did what and when?