When to have a 'talk' with the boss?
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Well. I have been offered a job. It's a bit weird as I wasn't really looking, but ended up going for an interview and have been offered a position.
It's in the same line of work, but with a different brand. The money/perks are very similar but there is a lot more potential for progression into management/different roles within the company.
I am now in a position where I have a job that I like, but would essentially be doing the same job for as long as I stay there with very little chance of progression (deadmans shoes is the erm I would use)
I have to let the prospective new employers tomorrow what I would like to do, I can't really get straight in my head which way to go.
What I'm wondering is whether I shoul discuss this with my manager? Would it harm my relationship if I then decided to stay in the current job or maybe open their eyes to the possibility of losing me?
I'm literally 50/50 with which way to go.
It's in the same line of work, but with a different brand. The money/perks are very similar but there is a lot more potential for progression into management/different roles within the company.
I am now in a position where I have a job that I like, but would essentially be doing the same job for as long as I stay there with very little chance of progression (deadmans shoes is the erm I would use)
I have to let the prospective new employers tomorrow what I would like to do, I can't really get straight in my head which way to go.
What I'm wondering is whether I shoul discuss this with my manager? Would it harm my relationship if I then decided to stay in the current job or maybe open their eyes to the possibility of losing me?
I'm literally 50/50 with which way to go.
How much do you like your current company? How likely are you to cross paths again with your current employer? As bad form or perceived unreliability may colour people's view of you. Finally if you do mention to your boss and they offer you good money to stay remember you have now sold out people may lose respect.
It kind of depends on your circumstances, such age commitments, and opportunities. Talking to your present employer might have one or two outcomes. As it stands having a conversation with your present employer needs to happen first thing in the morning to give you an indecation if they want to keep you, always worth at that point asking for some finacial improvment on your present terms and conditions.
This should give you an indecation if they want to retain your services, that will inform you what happens next.
This should give you an indecation if they want to retain your services, that will inform you what happens next.
Butter Face said:
Thanks happychap.
I guess I need to decide if I'm leaving at all, I don't know if the new job is exactly what I'm after at this moment.
id suggest if you have any doubt (which you clearly do) they stay where you are untill you are certain or find something you definately want. i take it you are relatively secure where you are?I guess I need to decide if I'm leaving at all, I don't know if the new job is exactly what I'm after at this moment.
ive got to have the same conversation with my company next week, similar circumstances, head hunted for a new role, better money and better prospects though. still going to be a tough conversation with my boss though as ive been here for nearly 6 years. but they had there chance to keep me already i guess. good luck.
smokey145 said:
id suggest if you have any doubt (which you clearly do) they stay where you are untill you are certain or find something you definately want. i take it you are relatively secure where you are?
ive got to have the same conversation with my company next week, similar circumstances, head hunted for a new role, better money and better prospects though. still going to be a tough conversation with my boss though as ive been here for nearly 6 years. but they had there chance to keep me already i guess. good luck.
Being head hunted must give you a confidence that others like what they see enough to tempt you into joining then. Never been in that situation myself but I imagine it would make the choice easyer.ive got to have the same conversation with my company next week, similar circumstances, head hunted for a new role, better money and better prospects though. still going to be a tough conversation with my boss though as ive been here for nearly 6 years. but they had there chance to keep me already i guess. good luck.
I a very similar position myself.
Was reasonably happy where I was, not looking for anything new, then my old boss, from a previous company, phoned me up and said his boss was looking for someone - was I interested.
I'm still not sure what to do.
Moving will increase my daily commute 5 fold, along with my petrol costs, i'm not unhappy where I am, but the new role does look interesting.
Typing that out and thinking about it.... I think i've made a decision.....
Was reasonably happy where I was, not looking for anything new, then my old boss, from a previous company, phoned me up and said his boss was looking for someone - was I interested.
I'm still not sure what to do.
Moving will increase my daily commute 5 fold, along with my petrol costs, i'm not unhappy where I am, but the new role does look interesting.
Typing that out and thinking about it.... I think i've made a decision.....
To the OP. I'd be wary of moving for promises. Currently you're moving for the same role with the promise/potential to move up which is the same thing you were probably told when you joined your current employer.
Me personally I'd stay put until the deal being offered was a no brainer. It doesn't sound that. Perhaps a chat with the boss saying you've been offered a role but it's doing the same thing but with better career prospects. Explain you'd prefer to stay put but you need to grow and try new challenges. Put the ball in his court.
Me personally I'd stay put until the deal being offered was a no brainer. It doesn't sound that. Perhaps a chat with the boss saying you've been offered a role but it's doing the same thing but with better career prospects. Explain you'd prefer to stay put but you need to grow and try new challenges. Put the ball in his court.
The problem with greener grass on the other side of the fence is that up close, it can be full of weeds.
Ok - trite response but you should be very sure there are more reasons to leave than stay. I have moved a few times in my career and had a couple of "green grass" situations. Few companies will tell you the negatives of a job up front, the allure of promotion etc. can be just that - allure and not reality.
When hiring now, I actually go out of my way to make sure people know it's not all sweet roses and feather duvets. They are told the crap all jobs have and I encourage existing employees to have a full and frank discussion with prospective hires so there are no illusions shattered in the first few months.
Try to get an existing employee up to the pub for a chat - see how promotions actually work and what the internal company stress levels are like.
If the current place is indeed nice to work at and you have a good salary, why not have a chat with your boss about not being fully challenged. Don't mention pay etc. just that you think you have more to give and how can they make the most of you. I value the heck out of loyalty and will make new positions for people I wish to retain.
Ok - trite response but you should be very sure there are more reasons to leave than stay. I have moved a few times in my career and had a couple of "green grass" situations. Few companies will tell you the negatives of a job up front, the allure of promotion etc. can be just that - allure and not reality.
When hiring now, I actually go out of my way to make sure people know it's not all sweet roses and feather duvets. They are told the crap all jobs have and I encourage existing employees to have a full and frank discussion with prospective hires so there are no illusions shattered in the first few months.
Try to get an existing employee up to the pub for a chat - see how promotions actually work and what the internal company stress levels are like.
If the current place is indeed nice to work at and you have a good salary, why not have a chat with your boss about not being fully challenged. Don't mention pay etc. just that you think you have more to give and how can they make the most of you. I value the heck out of loyalty and will make new positions for people I wish to retain.
bunyarra said:
If the current place is indeed nice to work at and you have a good salary, why not have a chat with your boss about not being fully challenged. Don't mention pay etc. just that you think you have more to give and how can they make the most of you. I value the heck out of loyalty and will make new positions for people I wish to retain.
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