Navman question
Discussion
I believe some of you out there have got the Navman package for the Compaq iPAQ, could anyone tell me how detailed the road atlas is, living in mid-Wales I would want to know that every minor (single track) road is shown. Can anyone help.
I have emailed Navman direct but am awaiting a response.
An alternative would be to go for the Memory-Map Navigator which uses full OS (Landranger) Maps (www.memory-map.co.uk), but this is considerably more expensive (with the GPS option) and you have to buy the maps you require seperately. Also looking at the size (Mb) of the map sections, only a little bit could be downloaded into the iPAQ at any one time.
davidy
I have emailed Navman direct but am awaiting a response.
An alternative would be to go for the Memory-Map Navigator which uses full OS (Landranger) Maps (www.memory-map.co.uk), but this is considerably more expensive (with the GPS option) and you have to buy the maps you require seperately. Also looking at the size (Mb) of the map sections, only a little bit could be downloaded into the iPAQ at any one time.
davidy
davidy,
I have the Navman and it has served me well so far. But what I would say is that the detail of the SmartPath Trip application isnt great. This is the software that you navigate from place to place with (e.g. Bristol to Manchester). But for the detail you have SmartPath City which has all of the A-Z type detail built in. Maps are much bigger but significantly more detailed - in fact I believe that it has all UK registered roads in it.....
BUT - it is specifically designed for places. This means that if you want a small road, it better be near a city, town or village for it to appear. Not brilliant but I guess that it will cover almost all.
If you can let me know what you are looking for I can check it out. I can upload the relevant maps and take a screen shot - they dont do evals so somewhat restrictive. But you can of course use a different mapping software packate...
Oh, and get yourself a fair sized CF card for it too. I have a 30MB one and I have found that I have filled most of it already.
Cheers,
Paul
I have the Navman and it has served me well so far. But what I would say is that the detail of the SmartPath Trip application isnt great. This is the software that you navigate from place to place with (e.g. Bristol to Manchester). But for the detail you have SmartPath City which has all of the A-Z type detail built in. Maps are much bigger but significantly more detailed - in fact I believe that it has all UK registered roads in it.....
BUT - it is specifically designed for places. This means that if you want a small road, it better be near a city, town or village for it to appear. Not brilliant but I guess that it will cover almost all.
If you can let me know what you are looking for I can check it out. I can upload the relevant maps and take a screen shot - they dont do evals so somewhat restrictive. But you can of course use a different mapping software packate...
Oh, and get yourself a fair sized CF card for it too. I have a 30MB one and I have found that I have filled most of it already.
Cheers,
Paul
David,
The City software is very detailed and will show you all kinds of minor roads and tracks. This is fine if you are only driving round that area.
What I find a pain is when travelling through many areas which I need minute detail, since this means changing maps (OK if you have plenty of disk space).
Just using the Trip software alone will not give you the detail. IMHO this is one of the major shortcomings over the iNS (Compaq nav system). But for the price difference I can live with it.
Steve
The City software is very detailed and will show you all kinds of minor roads and tracks. This is fine if you are only driving round that area.
What I find a pain is when travelling through many areas which I need minute detail, since this means changing maps (OK if you have plenty of disk space).
Just using the Trip software alone will not give you the detail. IMHO this is one of the major shortcomings over the iNS (Compaq nav system). But for the price difference I can live with it.
Steve
Thanks for the replies
Paul, if you could check the road level detail and email me a screenshot that would be great, could you try finding the hamlet of Geuffordd about 2 miles north of Guilsfield in Powys. The level of detail within 1 mile of Geuffordd should tell me what the system is capable of.
Not being a townie anymore, I am perhaps best of looking at something with much more detail like the memory-map stuff especially as one of my vehicles is a Land-Rover with go anywhere capability!
Alternatively I could buy a hand-held GPS and a pile of OS maps. I don't really want the system for its auto-routing capability more of where the hell am I!!
The idea of an iPAQ with GPS really appeals as I already have an iPAQ and then can move it from vehicle to vehicle or use it on foot.
davidy
Paul, if you could check the road level detail and email me a screenshot that would be great, could you try finding the hamlet of Geuffordd about 2 miles north of Guilsfield in Powys. The level of detail within 1 mile of Geuffordd should tell me what the system is capable of.
Not being a townie anymore, I am perhaps best of looking at something with much more detail like the memory-map stuff especially as one of my vehicles is a Land-Rover with go anywhere capability!
Alternatively I could buy a hand-held GPS and a pile of OS maps. I don't really want the system for its auto-routing capability more of where the hell am I!!
The idea of an iPAQ with GPS really appeals as I already have an iPAQ and then can move it from vehicle to vehicle or use it on foot.
davidy
I have the Navman3000 system connected to my Ipaq and must admit that I am pretty happy with the overall functionality of the Trip Planner or and City package. However, I went one further and bought the package offered by a company called www.pocketstreetmap.com this software has "blackspot" warnings, Roadworks, Speed indicators and a whole bunch more really interesting functions, as well as a very detailed mapping software to boot. Doesnt need millions of gig, syncs with your Ipaq when connected to the web and doesnt cosat an arm and a leg (not sure of the current market value of legs and arms)... Hmmm, I sound like a salesman!.
Try it out, there is a trial version available .. and you dont need the GPS to trial it!
>> Edited by Richard92c2 on Thursday 13th June 14:02
Try it out, there is a trial version available .. and you dont need the GPS to trial it!
>> Edited by Richard92c2 on Thursday 13th June 14:02
Davidy,
Here are the pictures - rather than email, I thought that I would use Fotango. Here goes nothing as I havent done the inline posting of pictures before:
Gueffordd in more detail with a road selected. However, as the roads are small there isnt much to see.
Same place as above with a different level of zoom. Lots of detail but the road names dropped for this example.
Waterloo bridge in London in fair zoom
Finally motorway junctions are quite well defined at maximum zoom. Here is the M11 junction 11 for the A10. And it is quite accurate too. But note this is an example of how they get out of date - the stansted junction will be out of date in 4 months!
Hope this helps and any questions post em up.
Cheers,
Paul
>> Edited by pbrettle on Thursday 13th June 17:15
>> Edited by pbrettle on Thursday 13th June 17:17
Here are the pictures - rather than email, I thought that I would use Fotango. Here goes nothing as I havent done the inline posting of pictures before:
Gueffordd in more detail with a road selected. However, as the roads are small there isnt much to see.
Same place as above with a different level of zoom. Lots of detail but the road names dropped for this example.
Waterloo bridge in London in fair zoom
Finally motorway junctions are quite well defined at maximum zoom. Here is the M11 junction 11 for the A10. And it is quite accurate too. But note this is an example of how they get out of date - the stansted junction will be out of date in 4 months!
Hope this helps and any questions post em up.
Cheers,
Paul
>> Edited by pbrettle on Thursday 13th June 17:15
>> Edited by pbrettle on Thursday 13th June 17:17
It also depends on which Navman option you go for. I've just got the IPAQ 3850 with the Navman INS128 with voice. The software supplied is Navman CoPilot and earlier today, I plotted a route from my house to Pembrey circuit near Llanelli (racing there at the weekend, testing tomorrow). You can vary the width of the 'corridoor' of your trip so you can deviate as well as giving a radius around your origin, waypoints and destination. For example, from my house with a 5 mile radius to Pembrey (destination has 15 mile radius) and a 5 mile corridoor of detail equates to 10.4Mb of memory on the IPAQ.
Paul
Thanks for doing that, I'm more impressed than I thought I would be as all the single track lanes are shown (even those with only one house at the end!) and some of them are very narrow, my Defender brushes both sides when travelling on them, just as well I got rid of the A8, otherwise it would be covered with tiny scratches !!! (With a defender you just don't care!!!!)
Stig
I've just started looking at other GPS/routing options, I would be interested if you could post a similar map to the first one Paul posted to do a comparison.
Because I like maps (another sad autistic thing) I currently fancy using the memory map stuff with the OS Landranger maps, this can be hooked up to the Navman GPS unit for current position or some of the Garmin units via a cable for position and routing/heading (the latter would also lend itself to being used on foot). See GPS Warehouse, www.gpsw.co.u for more details, but my biggest concern at the moment is the amount of memory that the maps take up. Each tile on the map 20kmx20km is about 500kB, no problem if you were doing a days walking as long as you had the right map loaded, but could be more of a problem for a days mystery tour out in the Land Rover.
I would also have to buy two map sets to cover most of Wales (The memory map software comes with a basic all of the UK road map), but the cost of the memory-map navigator and the two maps sets is about the same as buying all the OS Landranger maps - so I would just have to add GPS then.
davidy
Thanks for doing that, I'm more impressed than I thought I would be as all the single track lanes are shown (even those with only one house at the end!) and some of them are very narrow, my Defender brushes both sides when travelling on them, just as well I got rid of the A8, otherwise it would be covered with tiny scratches !!! (With a defender you just don't care!!!!)
Stig
I've just started looking at other GPS/routing options, I would be interested if you could post a similar map to the first one Paul posted to do a comparison.
Because I like maps (another sad autistic thing) I currently fancy using the memory map stuff with the OS Landranger maps, this can be hooked up to the Navman GPS unit for current position or some of the Garmin units via a cable for position and routing/heading (the latter would also lend itself to being used on foot). See GPS Warehouse, www.gpsw.co.u for more details, but my biggest concern at the moment is the amount of memory that the maps take up. Each tile on the map 20kmx20km is about 500kB, no problem if you were doing a days walking as long as you had the right map loaded, but could be more of a problem for a days mystery tour out in the Land Rover.
I would also have to buy two map sets to cover most of Wales (The memory map software comes with a basic all of the UK road map), but the cost of the memory-map navigator and the two maps sets is about the same as buying all the OS Landranger maps - so I would just have to add GPS then.
davidy
Chaps,
Just tried the software that Richard92c2 recommended - www.pocketstreetmap.co.uk. Some parts of it are a pain and there is no route planning functionality either. Oh, and I found the accuracy not brilliant. But must say that the speed camera data is excellent. They get this from Origin Blue (rated by owners) and it does actually work well. You get a nice warning on screen and bong bong sound too. Pretty accurate on the locations of the cameras....
Rather nice. Its not expensive and for the access to the speed camera data it it worth it. Might just buy it to replace the need for something like Origin Blue or Geodsey.
Worth a look.
Cheers,
Paul
Just tried the software that Richard92c2 recommended - www.pocketstreetmap.co.uk. Some parts of it are a pain and there is no route planning functionality either. Oh, and I found the accuracy not brilliant. But must say that the speed camera data is excellent. They get this from Origin Blue (rated by owners) and it does actually work well. You get a nice warning on screen and bong bong sound too. Pretty accurate on the locations of the cameras....
Rather nice. Its not expensive and for the access to the speed camera data it it worth it. Might just buy it to replace the need for something like Origin Blue or Geodsey.
Worth a look.
Cheers,
Paul
Have been thinking of jumping in with the Navman / Ipaq combo soon too - here's a snippet from an email I recieved back from Navman regarding the release of the updated software.
"We are releasing our new software later this summer, hopefully towards the end of July. It will include voice navigation, door-to-door navigation and also dynamic re-routing"
It should then match the Compaq version and be Europe wide.
"We are releasing our new software later this summer, hopefully towards the end of July. It will include voice navigation, door-to-door navigation and also dynamic re-routing"
It should then match the Compaq version and be Europe wide.
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