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Odie said:
TBH I feel a bit let down, ive been with the company for 12 years 5-6 in this current role and in the last couple of years ive been promised a payrise/bonus but ive seen nothing.
I did 1 year get a 0.5% payrise from my review result.
Hmmm, I personally will not be happy if 6 years past by without a single payrise unless there's a pay freeze or some performance-related issues. In this climate the issue of payrise is a very sensitive one. Still, I would advice trying to approach your manager in a friendly and constructive manner and see what happens then.I did 1 year get a 0.5% payrise from my review result.
What do you do? The aim is to be paid what you're outputs are worth in the open market. Have you benchmarked elsewhere based upon advertised salaries? Are your competencies scarce or plentiful? Are you valued by your organisation or are you an invisible employee? These and many other factors help determine your market value. If you're not content and feel undervalued, you have to, tactfully, tell your boss. He/she'll either agree or disagree; nothing ventured, nothing gained. If they disagrees, you have two choices; stay or go. Good luck!
Odie said:
TBH I feel a bit let down, ive been with the company for 12 years 5-6 in this current role and in the last couple of years ive been promised a payrise/bonus but ive seen nothing.
I did 1 year get a 0.5% payrise from my review result.
Obviously don't know from your comments above exactly your situation but.... I did 1 year get a 0.5% payrise from my review result.
It's likely to be one of three things, either your performing a non-critical non-skilled role which means that an employer will pay the market rate and that won't really change. For example someone working minimum wage in a cafe - thats just what the job will pay and length of service isn't really going to make a difference.
Two, your employer is holding salaries down intentially for financial reasons.
Or three that your employer thinks you'll put up with being fobbed off every year and so doesn't see a need to offer you an incentive to stay.
Whatever one of these is the most likely - you need to move jobs, thats the best way normally to negotiate a decent salary.
t bingo and wI like the company and most of the people. My boss has promised to try to get me a payrise and a bonus but that was months ago, I know things take time.
I know im valued and im not invisible even though I have a habit of keeping my head down and getting things done. I do feel undervalued and have brought this up before.
A couple of months ago I finished a long term project that was highly praised. In the middle of the project as things were going so well a bonus was mentioned on numerous occasions (id put a lot of extra time and effort in to keep things on track, had managed staff which isnt part of my role and acted up a level in order to help out) at the end of the project I received £30 in vouchers (or more accurately 6x£5 vouchers as the vouchers couldnt be used together), when i mentioned to my line manager that had severely demotivated me and I was feeling disallusioned about my place within the company I was told "That the vouchers were just a thank you and were not in lieu of anything else and would not compromise any other discussions" that was 3 months ago.
I think I will finished the year out here, see what my options are. Im not going back into another retail position, im going to do something else.
I know im valued and im not invisible even though I have a habit of keeping my head down and getting things done. I do feel undervalued and have brought this up before.
A couple of months ago I finished a long term project that was highly praised. In the middle of the project as things were going so well a bonus was mentioned on numerous occasions (id put a lot of extra time and effort in to keep things on track, had managed staff which isnt part of my role and acted up a level in order to help out) at the end of the project I received £30 in vouchers (or more accurately 6x£5 vouchers as the vouchers couldnt be used together), when i mentioned to my line manager that had severely demotivated me and I was feeling disallusioned about my place within the company I was told "That the vouchers were just a thank you and were not in lieu of anything else and would not compromise any other discussions" that was 3 months ago.
I think I will finished the year out here, see what my options are. Im not going back into another retail position, im going to do something else.
Put together a business case for your line manager/HR for why you should be paid more. If you can't justify it in writing, why should you expect your line manager to be able to do so?
I'd look at things like:
I'd look at things like:
- Salaries for comparable jobs in the marketplace;
- Your performance relative to your peers/colleagues;
- Any increase in responsibility since you started the role (formal or not);
- Specific instances where you felt you out-performed or over-delivered on expectations.
Book a meeting with your boss
1. Tell you you very much enjoy working with the company and that you consider yourself a loyal contributor to the firm.
2. Tell him the salary you were hired on six years ago, and your salary today – he probably won’t even know the data.
3. Ask him “ I would like to know with certainty if I am likely to be given a pay rise in the near furture”
4. Don’t say anything else – don’t hedge, bluster, apologise or back down.
5. If he says he will look into it, arrange a follow up meeting for one weeks time.
6. If he says no payrise is available, ask him if he can help you understand the reasons for that decision
If you are doing the same job after 6 years, then this might be the the problem?
If the job pays market rate, and you get inflation based payrises every year, then yes thats perfectly normal. In the current climate its actually pretty good.
To earn a proper above inflation payrise you probably need to be doing a different job. Are are grades of your current role, or the prospects for promotion?
If the job pays market rate, and you get inflation based payrises every year, then yes thats perfectly normal. In the current climate its actually pretty good.
To earn a proper above inflation payrise you probably need to be doing a different job. Are are grades of your current role, or the prospects for promotion?
You should negotiate for a pay rise, or find another job. Most employers would at least give a cost of living increase.
O/T, but the hourly rate that the Government pays me when I work for it has not changed for 18 years. It is currently less than a quarter of my commercial rate, and is not negotiable!
O/T, but the hourly rate that the Government pays me when I work for it has not changed for 18 years. It is currently less than a quarter of my commercial rate, and is not negotiable!
Well ive asked my boss (again), HR and the board says 'No' not at the moment. Due to business circumstance.
Everyone agrees (apparently) that I should have a pay rise and a bonus, but im not getting one at the moment, Ive got to wait. (again) I feel like im having the mick taken out of me, im doing someone else's job for them (hes the designer, im the implementer, we were cutting out the middle man and I was doing the design work due to time constraints) and not being paid for it. Thats the main issue.
my heart told me to put my notice in straight away, but i haven't, I want to but.. well you know.
Ive started looking for jobs.
Everyone agrees (apparently) that I should have a pay rise and a bonus, but im not getting one at the moment, Ive got to wait. (again) I feel like im having the mick taken out of me, im doing someone else's job for them (hes the designer, im the implementer, we were cutting out the middle man and I was doing the design work due to time constraints) and not being paid for it. Thats the main issue.
my heart told me to put my notice in straight away, but i haven't, I want to but.. well you know.
Ive started looking for jobs.
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