New human species identified

New human species identified

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Morningside

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24,136 posts

244 months

Saturday 11th August 2012
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This seems to be a real major science story that for some odd reason is given little or no airtime.

A species that ran parallel to us.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1918...

Gene Vincent

4,002 posts

173 months

Saturday 11th August 2012
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The bit that the article completely missed is the really important bit, H.erg, H.rudo and H.hab lived in close proximity in SE Africa, whereas later H.neand, H.ere and H.sap were separated hugely in comparison, this leads to some intriguing points for speculation.

Du1point8

22,029 posts

207 months

Saturday 11th August 2012
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And there was me thinking you were on about Chavs being declared as a new species.

croyde

24,770 posts

245 months

Saturday 11th August 2012
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There are now people that do not get wisdom teeth. The next generation are here and living amongst us.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

213 months

Saturday 11th August 2012
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Interesting, cheers for the link.

Simpo Two

89,000 posts

280 months

Saturday 11th August 2012
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croyde said:
There are now people that do not get wisdom teeth. The next generation are here and living amongst us.
Or sometimes just a pair. In fact the human jaw is rarely big enough for 32 teeth to fit comfortably, so it's no bad thing.

Shaolin

2,955 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th August 2012
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I seem to regularly see "people" who I'm sure aren't the same species as I am.

Brother D

4,167 posts

191 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Gene Vincent said:
The bit that the article completely missed is the really important bit, H.erg, H.rudo and H.hab lived in close proximity in SE Africa, whereas later H.neand, H.ere and H.sap were separated hugely in comparison, this leads to some intriguing points for speculation.
Are you insinuating a case for polygenesis? I thought this was frowned upon, regardless of possible evidence?

jimmyjimjim

7,769 posts

253 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Du1point8 said:
And there was me thinking you were on about Chavs being declared as a new species.
I did read 'Morningside" as 'Merseyside" and expected the same thing.

Simpo Two

89,000 posts

280 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Brother D said:
Gene Vincent said:
The bit that the article completely missed is the really important bit, H.erg, H.rudo and H.hab lived in close proximity in SE Africa, whereas later H.neand, H.ere and H.sap were separated hugely in comparison, this leads to some intriguing points for speculation.
Are you insinuating a case for polygenesis? I thought this was frowned upon, regardless of possible evidence?
No, the latter groups are much later; it's a case of migration not polygenesis. These guys had legs!

On the subject of different species interbreeding; well, it depends how you define a species, but the usual one IIRC is that different species cannot interbreed (ie produce viable offspring), and if they can, they they are two races of the same species.

Morningside

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244 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Woah! Thats an interesting thought.

Morningside

Original Poster:

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244 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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jimmyjimjim said:
Du1point8 said:
And there was me thinking you were on about Chavs being declared as a new species.
I did read 'Morningside" as 'Merseyside" and expected the same thing.
Oi! irked

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

276 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Simpo Two said:
On the subject of different species interbreeding; well, it depends how you define a species, but the usual one IIRC is that different species cannot interbreed (ie produce viable offspring), and if they can, they they are two races of the same species.
It's a bit arbitrary though. There are cases where A can interbreed with B, and B with C, but not A with C.

RacerMDR

5,582 posts

225 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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croyde said:
There are now people that do not get wisdom teeth. The next generation are here and living amongst us.
that be me