braided hoses + other upgrades mo30
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Hi guys, just a couple of questions if you have the time.
My 986 brakes are abit mushy ive only noticed this having driven my fiance's vw golf which has excellent power would a fluid change and "braidied hoses" and any particular pad make a difference ? the 986 is just for fun on the weekends on the road so feel free to suggest whatever . Ok so the biggy ROW,MO30 suspension..... mmmm on a 2.5 986 ? anybody got any experience of a boxster with this suspension i was at a opc the other week and one chap there said he's never seen it on account of boxser drivers not really being " hard core " enough to need it ? i have lots and lots of nice twisty roads on my door step so could i take advantage of a mo30 set.
if anyone has had any of these done would it be possible to state the cost many thank james
My 986 brakes are abit mushy ive only noticed this having driven my fiance's vw golf which has excellent power would a fluid change and "braidied hoses" and any particular pad make a difference ? the 986 is just for fun on the weekends on the road so feel free to suggest whatever . Ok so the biggy ROW,MO30 suspension..... mmmm on a 2.5 986 ? anybody got any experience of a boxster with this suspension i was at a opc the other week and one chap there said he's never seen it on account of boxser drivers not really being " hard core " enough to need it ? i have lots and lots of nice twisty roads on my door step so could i take advantage of a mo30 set.
if anyone has had any of these done would it be possible to state the cost many thank james
I have the M030 suspension on my Boxster Anniversary. It gives a lower stance and on smooth, good tarmac it's excellent. However, none of the roads in my area fit that description, and the ride on bumpy, poorly-surfaced back roads is a bit too crashy for my tastes. If I were to buy another 986, I would opt for the standard suspension.
That said, if you don't mind a firm ride and you have some decent roads near you, it does work very well.
On the subject of brakes, new 5.1 brake fluid and braided hoses should give you some more feel, if your pads and discs are in good condition.
That said, if you don't mind a firm ride and you have some decent roads near you, it does work very well.
On the subject of brakes, new 5.1 brake fluid and braided hoses should give you some more feel, if your pads and discs are in good condition.
New fluid and braided hoses should certainly help but I'm not sure if it will give the that utopian/racecar rock-solid brake pedal with a high biting point that you may be looking for?
ISTR that the M030 suspension option was quite commonly ticked from new as the upgrade was only ever a few hundred quid in the UK. When presented with the options list, I can imagine that it wasn't a terribly hard sell to persuade a customer to spend 1% extra on adding 'sports suspension' to his new sports car...
However, I do recall reading on various bulletin boards at the time that quite a few folk were finding it rather 'too crashy' for daily use on the rougher roads and therefore, I resisted the temptation when I specced mine.
Overall, I would say that standard is very good - even on the Nurburgring (although I've only ever done a handful of laps there). On other flatter wider circuits, I could imagine that the M030 set up would have made it more fun to push that bit harder but you can still have fun on the softer set-up.
With 137k kms on the clock, I'm pretty sure that a suspension refresh on my own car would now be noticeable but as I'm still using it daily, I think I will leave it until I am ready to retire it to weekend toy status upon which I might bang M030 on.
I keep looking on here to see if anyone else has done their 986 suspension but the topic rarely comes up. A couple of folk have posted that they are going to do it but I don't recall reading any detailed feedback so maybe they did not bother or were not convinced by the results?
Gert from Carnewal told me a year or so ago that he fitted M030 to a customers car and it was a relativelty painless process and very little else needed to be changed but perhaps you should be changing the bolts and if you need to change all the coffin-arms then the bill will end up quite large so one would hope that the end result would be transformational.... There is a DIY guide on Pelican Parts website but that suggests that it is not for the inexperienced...
Let us know how you get on. Perhaps on the Poverty Pork thread?
Cheers,
ISTR that the M030 suspension option was quite commonly ticked from new as the upgrade was only ever a few hundred quid in the UK. When presented with the options list, I can imagine that it wasn't a terribly hard sell to persuade a customer to spend 1% extra on adding 'sports suspension' to his new sports car...
However, I do recall reading on various bulletin boards at the time that quite a few folk were finding it rather 'too crashy' for daily use on the rougher roads and therefore, I resisted the temptation when I specced mine.
Overall, I would say that standard is very good - even on the Nurburgring (although I've only ever done a handful of laps there). On other flatter wider circuits, I could imagine that the M030 set up would have made it more fun to push that bit harder but you can still have fun on the softer set-up.
With 137k kms on the clock, I'm pretty sure that a suspension refresh on my own car would now be noticeable but as I'm still using it daily, I think I will leave it until I am ready to retire it to weekend toy status upon which I might bang M030 on.
I keep looking on here to see if anyone else has done their 986 suspension but the topic rarely comes up. A couple of folk have posted that they are going to do it but I don't recall reading any detailed feedback so maybe they did not bother or were not convinced by the results?
Gert from Carnewal told me a year or so ago that he fitted M030 to a customers car and it was a relativelty painless process and very little else needed to be changed but perhaps you should be changing the bolts and if you need to change all the coffin-arms then the bill will end up quite large so one would hope that the end result would be transformational.... There is a DIY guide on Pelican Parts website but that suggests that it is not for the inexperienced...
Let us know how you get on. Perhaps on the Poverty Pork thread?
Cheers,
I've never really understood the advantage of these braided hoses to be honest, as far as I understand the only benefit is increased abrasion resistance ??
I did actually try them for myself on my 968 but felt no different to me, have reverted to the standard ones again.
Has anyone on here actually fitted these hoses and immediately noticed a difference ??
I did actually try them for myself on my 968 but felt no different to me, have reverted to the standard ones again.
Has anyone on here actually fitted these hoses and immediately noticed a difference ??
Sandy59 said:
I've never really understood the advantage of these braided hoses to be honest, as far as I understand the only benefit is increased abrasion resistance ??
I did actually try them for myself on my 968 but felt no different to me, have reverted to the standard ones again.
Has anyone on here actually fitted these hoses and immediately noticed a difference ??
I tend to have similar experience with a number of cars.I did actually try them for myself on my 968 but felt no different to me, have reverted to the standard ones again.
Has anyone on here actually fitted these hoses and immediately noticed a difference ??
Back to the original question - definitely get the fluid changed and possibly brakes / discs if they seem in a poor state. Boxster brakes definitely should NOT feel mushy.
cheers boys that was fast ! yeah if i go ahead with the mo30 i will post up results my only concern is that i buy the kit then need to replace other parts aswell and that could get expensive i was thinking i might be able to get it done for around 1300 mark as for the brakes yep i think it cold do with new discs and pads at the same time Drilled or not drilled?
You can't compare Porsche and VW pedal feel. VW's is overservoed and feels like an on/off switch, Porsche's is superbly progressive and moderately servoed which massively helps modulation, allowing you to get calipers to smoothly clamp the discs (without unsettling the car) before applying full power when required.
This is not to say all is well in terms of condition in that particular of course.
This is not to say all is well in terms of condition in that particular of course.
I have the M030 on my 550 Anniversary - they all came with it as standard. Feels good on track, but its obviously not race suspension. A recommended upgrade.
Braided brake hoses are a Saxo/Corsa/Tesco car park crowd favourite - pointless on a Boxster. Change discs and/or pads and/or brake fluid in preference - Castrol SRF if you're going to track it.
Braided brake hoses are a Saxo/Corsa/Tesco car park crowd favourite - pointless on a Boxster. Change discs and/or pads and/or brake fluid in preference - Castrol SRF if you're going to track it.
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