Would stone chips stop a sale?
Would stone chips stop a sale?
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Richdevon

Original Poster:

3 posts

172 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Would normal stone chips put you off buying the car-does the car have to be immaculate to sell?
Car is my 993 turbo so a lot of money someone is paying out-(though ironically due to lack of depreciation very little)

I have a few stonechips on the car im selling-front nothing bad just normal, same with rear arches though 1 stonechip ive touched up and rear bumper has 1 stonechip ive touched up.
Th problem is the whole panels needs spraying just for say 1 stonechip/small flecks-is it best to keep it 'honest' or add the cost of the spraying and sell it immaculate.
I personally wasnt bothered about the odd stonechip when I bought the car.As long it was hpi clear and in good order.
what do you think.

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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If I were buying privately, I would want the car in an "honest" condition. I would much rather have the panel sprayed at a body shop that I know and trust, after I have bought the car.

pp

Daggerpie

1,434 posts

231 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Personally, I'd leave it as is and price it accordingly & be totally honest when someone enquires about it.

Its a 993 at the end of the day, not a month old 991 so a few chips are to be expected. Even with the best spray job in the world, it might still flag up worries about previous damage etc..

Pugley

687 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Just be realistic. Discount the price by the amount that it would really cost to repair the chip damage. An estimate from a good body shop should allay any fears and demonstrate your honesty.

Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

224 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Richdevon said:
Would normal stone chips put you off buying the car-does the car have to be immaculate to sell?
Car is my 993 turbo so a lot of money someone is paying out-(though ironically due to lack of depreciation very little)

I have a few stonechips on the car im selling-front nothing bad just normal, same with rear arches though 1 stonechip ive touched up and rear bumper has 1 stonechip ive touched up.
Th problem is the whole panels needs spraying just for say 1 stonechip/small flecks-is it best to keep it 'honest' or add the cost of the spraying and sell it immaculate.
I personally wasnt bothered about the odd stonechip when I bought the car.As long it was hpi clear and in good order.
what do you think.
I've always had the front bumpers repainted on each Porsche I've owned before selling them on (and usually had the wheels refinished too). It's cheap enough to get done well and stops the car looking a mess. I don't think it really adds any value to the car, but it can lift the car above the 'competition' and removes what could become a barrier-to-buying or a reason to negotiate down the price.

993kimbo

3,003 posts

215 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Richdevon said:
Car is my 993 turbo so a lot of money someone is paying out-(though ironically due to lack of depreciation very little)
But you don't know that yet.

Put it up for the price you want and knock a bit off for the stone-chip work when/if you get a buyer. Buyers like stone-chips. It gives them leverage, unless they're buying from me of course.

Ewa Woowa

26 posts

174 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Ian_UK1 said:
I've always had the front bumpers repainted on each Porsche I've owned before selling them on (and usually had the wheels refinished too). It's cheap enough to get done well and stops the car looking a mess. I don't think it really adds any value to the car, but it can lift the car above the 'competition' and removes what could become a barrier-to-buying or a reason to negotiate down the price.
Can I ask a cheeky Q? Approx what is / was the cost of a respray?
(I'm considering having the fron of my Cayman done.)

TheBMWDriver

594 posts

184 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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stone chips do not bother me one little bit.

I did not eve look for them when i bought my car. A car is to drive and it will pick up chips

williaa68

1,540 posts

196 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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I think getting the bumpers done makes some sense - it might not be that easy to sell privately and as noted you want to lift it above the competition. Bumpers are on thing but presumably if you had to have the bonnet resprayed you would lose the options label underneath - that presumably would be detrimental as people may conclude it isnt original and there is somthing behind this. This has been niggling me for a while - I have been thinking of having mine resprayed but cant see how to do it and keep the label?

mollytherocker

14,467 posts

239 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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williaa68 said:
presumably if you had to have the bonnet resprayed you would lose the options label underneath -
Why would you? You dont need to spray the underside.

MTR

ukgatecrasher

50 posts

219 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Ewa Woowa said:
Can I ask a cheeky Q? Approx what is / was the cost of a respray?
(I'm considering having the fron of my Cayman done.)
I have just had the front end done on my basalt black 996tt at a reputable paint shop in my area, bonnet, both wings and bumper which cost £830, it took a week but I had a loan car. Also had all wheels refurbed in a two part black chrome finish for £260.

It looks absolutely fantastic now, a pleasure to spend Sunday afternoons cleaning!!!

Edited by ukgatecrasher on Friday 15th June 20:28

ukgatecrasher

50 posts

219 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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The label is also fully intact.

MogulBoy

3,066 posts

253 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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To the OP. What is the general condition of the paint besides the presence of a few stone chips? If you have recently corrected i.e. swirl-free paint with a few stone chips then the chips themselves can almost 'disappear' against the overall impression of an otherwise cherished car.

David58

218 posts

250 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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I like to buy my cars with honest wear too , spray jobs just look like chrash damage and theres normally tell tale signs that its been sprayed...

Dont use those colour polishes either its very diapointing when you buy a car and wash it a few times and loads of chips start to appear ( thanks BMW )

Richdevon

Original Poster:

3 posts

172 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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MogulBoy said:
To the OP. What is the general condition of the paint besides the presence of a few stone chips? If you have recently corrected i.e. swirl-free paint with a few stone chips then the chips themselves can almost 'disappear' against the overall impression of an otherwise cherished car.
The overall condition i would say is very good-Im not going to do the stone chips,leave them alone not that bad actually,but I will refurbish the wheels with new tyres.

Rockster

1,515 posts

190 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Richdevon said:
Would normal stone chips put you off buying the car-does the car have to be immaculate to sell?
Car is my 993 turbo so a lot of money someone is paying out-(though ironically due to lack of depreciation very little)

I have a few stonechips on the car im selling-front nothing bad just normal, same with rear arches though 1 stonechip ive touched up and rear bumper has 1 stonechip ive touched up.
Th problem is the whole panels needs spraying just for say 1 stonechip/small flecks-is it best to keep it 'honest' or add the cost of the spraying and sell it immaculate.
I personally wasnt bothered about the odd stonechip when I bought the car.As long it was hpi clear and in good order.
what do you think.
I'd not respray the bumper.

The 993 Turbo S is one desirable car -- a neighbor had one (midnight blue IIRC, dark very dark blue at any rate) and I spotted a speed yellow one in a dealer's service department getting serviced and the damn thing was the most beautiful car ever and the tech told me the prices on these cars has skyrocketed) and I'd argue it is worth more with the bumper cover as it got naturally.

If the new owner wants to paint the cover he can.

IOWs, treat the natural bumper cover as a plus.

Sincerely,

Rockster.

Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

224 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Ewa Woowa said:
Can I ask a cheeky Q? Approx what is / was the cost of a respray?
(I'm considering having the fron of my Cayman done.)
I'm lucky as I have a friend who owns a bodyshop so the prices I've paid may not be representative (unless the thieving git's been over charging me)! biggrin

From memory, on my last car, it was about £250 to have the front bumper removed, prepped, painted and replaced. Removal of the bumper means no overspray or other 'looks like crash damage' nonsense. The results were completely indistinguishable from the Porsche factory finish (thanks to a combination of a very talented 'sprayer' and all the latest kit).

ChrisW.

8,157 posts

285 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Subject to colour match with the rest of the car.

I would leave it.

The authenticity of the cars original patina would be a bigger plus to me (assuming it gives the impression of a long and loved life !)