Not the best start to Noble ownership....
Not the best start to Noble ownership....
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M12WTF

Original Poster:

171 posts

204 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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But still the best decision I have ever, ever ,made. WHAT A CAR!!!

Id also like to use this opportunity to say hi to you all and welcome myself to the land of Nobility smile

I have had my car since last December and should have greeted you all a lot earlier but to be honest, I have hardly used my Noble due to the time of year I bought it. Alas now spring is here, its game on.

After a few months of pondering I ended up chopping my much loved supercharged Exige in for a fairly low mileage M12 GTO3r. I bought the car from censored up in the outskirts of censored. The journey back home wasn't the best.
Unfortunately due to bad weather, the test drive I did, didn't allow me to really drive the car. On the journey home back to London, once the rain had gone, I went to sink the accelerator, the car completely misfired and wasn't allowing me to put the power down. O dear indeed.
I immediately phoned the sales guy who told me to bring the car back but at this point I was half way to London. I got the car to Mole Valley as soon as I could.
After they had gone through it to work out the problem, there was a a good few things wrong and they had to keep the Noble for a couple of weeks. In the end the bill was just under £2,500 frown

New front and rear manifolds.
Re-set the plug gaps and clean coil packs.
Weld the rear turbo cat pipe.
Replace four way fuse board.
Sort out the heater temperature switch.
Remove passenger door panel so I can use the wing mirror.
Re-map the ecu.
New turbo basket and Flange.
Head unit wasn't working, now fixed.

Now the sales manager at censored had told me they had gone over the car with a fine tooth comb. They obviously didn't. Wrong plug gaps in a Noble??? they couldn't have driven the car!! They did however pay Mole valley for the bill. They didn't want to, at first they said they'd pay half...I then brought up the sales agreement act and threatened them with legal proceedings.

I have had to pay for other things too, knocking noise meant more welding. New shoes for the handbrake. Another tidy bill for around £600 that censored didn't pay and called my bluff on getting a lawyer, so I had to.

I wouldn't deal with censored sports cars ever again. I would worn people before they buy from there to really think again, Or expect a few trips back there. Maybe my dealings was a one off but you certainly don't expect that within two weeks of owner ship.

Hats off the Mole Valley who have assisted me fantastically with the whole business.

There is one more thing I would love sum advice on. The fuel consumption is shocking. I reckon I'm getting around 14mpg's and that's without giving it the beans. I have just changed plugs, I'm using NGKS'. Hasn't seem to have done anything. It has just passed its MOT test so guessing the lambda is ok to have passed the emissions test. Fuel sensor??

Everything aside the car is nearly back to being normal and I absolutely love the thing. Its an utter joy. The rough start to ownership hasn't dampened or made me regret buying it. (Could have done without it.) I knew that buying a Noble there would be a few niggles to sort out and that they are expensive to work on.

Thanks for reading and I'm look forward to getting involved on the forums here. A few enhancements me thinks soon.....smile



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Edited by Big Al. on Monday 21st May 23:09

Juno

4,485 posts

278 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Congrats and I hope you get a better welcome than me rofl

Be careful when describing any mods you can get into alot of hot water here! typephonearguepunch

Now on a serious note great looking car but did you not hear about the hosepipe ban banghead

sunoco69

5,274 posts

194 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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1st, welcome aboard!

2nd, sorry to hear your woes. You will read on hear that a lot of us use JetStream. Very highly recommended and good prices.

3rd, LOVE that number plate!

D_G

1,937 posts

238 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Welcome wavey

My car was supplied and serviced by censored by the previous owner, I fixed a load of small issues after I bought it, stuff that should have been taken care of by their servicing. I've looked after it since then, especially as the last service by them was nearly four figures yikes

Anyway, enjoy it now it's all sorted! It'll be the best purchase you've ever made!

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Edited by Big Al. on Monday 21st May 23:11

Rob_W

1,070 posts

243 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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M12WTF said:






Hats off the Mole Valley who have assisted me fantastically with the whole business.

There is one more thing I would love sum advice on. The fuel consumption is shocking. I reckon I'm getting around 14mpg's and that's without giving it the beans. I have just changed plugs, I'm using NGKS'. Hasn't seem to have done anything. It has just passed its MOT test so guessing the lambda is ok to have passed the emissions test. Fuel sensor??



Hi, funny how they are more helpful when they are getting paid for service than trying to maintain margin on sales, your saviours are not innocent in that respect either.

Re consumption are you doing short journeys as I reckon that destroys mpg, if you haven't, try taking a day to run at least a tank full through in one go and see what you get. You are never going to get brilliant figures but I reckon you're only 10-20% down on what your Exige would have got (I foll0wed the same path) so for the power difference ain't bad.

Cheers
Rob

PS Welcome

JBliss

1,149 posts

186 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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M12WTF said:
There is one more thing I would love sum advice on. The fuel consumption is shocking.
Oh yes it is! But we don't buy these things for fuel consumption. The small tank coupled with the sometimes random fuel gauge can make it seem like you are in the petrol station every day.
I can easily do a tank and a half in one evening of driving....lots of right foot though!

Glad you got everything sorted. I would suggest taking your car to Jetstream for servicing etc. you will not meet anyone as knowledgable as Dave and Matt. I think most people on here would agree!

As for mods. Get the fuel pump wiring and exhaust sorted first if not done already

M12WTF

Original Poster:

171 posts

204 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Hey there,

haha yes hose pipe ban. Luckily this is an older pic done at the start of the year wink


Juno said:
Congrats and I hope you get a better welcome than me rofl

Be careful when describing any mods you can get into alot of hot water here! typephonearguepunch

Now on a serious note great looking car but did you not hear about the hosepipe ban banghead

M12WTF

Original Poster:

171 posts

204 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Hiya, thanks for the comp on the number plate. Very fitting I thought.

Yes Jetstream, I have tried to find them online but no joy. I have heard a rumor they don't advertise and they are almost a secret club for the Noble population. I bit like being a mason smile


sunoco69 said:
1st, welcome aboard!

2nd, sorry to hear your woes. You will read on hear that a lot of us use JetStream. Very highly recommended and good prices.

3rd, LOVE that number plate!

M12WTF

Original Poster:

171 posts

204 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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I think Nobles NEED to be taken to select experts. censored cover to many sports cars. Bad a company that big just carry on like a 'used car garage' get them in and churn them out kinda thing.


D_G said:
Welcome wavey

My car was supplied and serviced by censored by the previous owner, I fixed a load of small issues after I bought it, stuff that should have been taken care of by their servicing. I've looked after it since then, especially as the last service by them was nearly four figures yikes

Anyway, enjoy it now it's all sorted! It'll be the best purchase you've ever made!
Edited by Big Al. on Monday 21st May 23:14

M12WTF

Original Poster:

171 posts

204 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Mole Valley are my nearest specialist. I can understand what you are saying though.

I have done a few long journeys in the car. I have taken it to work a couple of times. That journey is just over 30miles. I have worked out it costs me £25 and that is mooching along at 70-80 (hard to do. I have been told I should be getting at least 20mpg

Cheers,

Ant

Rob_W said:
Hi, funny how they are more helpful when they are getting paid for service than trying to maintain margin on sales, your saviours are not innocent in that respect either.

Re consumption are you doing short journeys as I reckon that destroys mpg, if you haven't, try taking a day to run at least a tank full through in one go and see what you get. You are never going to get brilliant figures but I reckon you're only 10-20% down on what your Exige would have got (I foll0wed the same path) so for the power difference ain't bad.

Cheers
Rob

PS Welcome

Juno

4,485 posts

278 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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M12WTF said:
I'm only small fry but bought mine in January after owning a new 3R in 2003. I found a 12000 mile 2004 car. Runs like a dream and no issues so far.

Have fitted Roush Exhaust, had new bespoke inter cooler and hard pipe kit installed, re positioned air filters and fitted internal double diffuser to aid cooling. Repositioned number plate, Bosch fuel pump and wiring plus Tuxman rear wing and Front Carbon Splitter.

Cooling is working a treat with very little gain in intercooler temps even after a half hour blast!

Won't be selling this one in the foreseeable future, there just too good and too much fun!

M12WTF

Original Poster:

171 posts

204 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Hi there,

I agree, you don't buy a Noble for good fuel consumption. As we get shafted by the government on fuel, I'd like to give them as little as possible tho wink

I do want to use Jetstream, just cant find them online....??

I have heard about the fuel pump mod.A must do. The one thing that is a must have for me is the exhaust. I have been reading a lot of threads on here regarding exhausts. Yet again it is proving hard to find them online. Hayward + Scott wont make just one and the Rousch option is apparently very loud. An option I need to do more research on me thinks.

Thanks for the kind welcome.

Ant,


JBliss said:
Oh yes it is! But we don't buy these things for fuel consumption. The small tank coupled with the sometimes random fuel gauge can make it seem like you are in the petrol station every day.
I can easily do a tank and a half in one evening of driving....lots of right foot though!

Glad you got everything sorted. I would suggest taking your car to Jetstream for servicing etc. you will not meet anyone as knowledgable as Dave and Matt. I think most people on here would agree!

As for mods. Get the fuel pump wiring and exhaust sorted first!

Juno

4,485 posts

278 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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M12WTF said:
I would like my Roush to be MUCH LOUDER
shout

M12WTF

Original Poster:

171 posts

204 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Wow that is a low mileage one. I found its hard to find the perfect Noble as they are so rare.

They are some tasty upgrades. I definitely want to start making them myself.

One that I have been told is pretty simple that is bothering me is the heat coming into the car. I would like to get this 'tunnel cooling' mod done as I don't really want to have the a/c on all the time.

How is the exhaust? heard the Roush is quite a loud option,?to loud for track?

Sorry I don't know what area you are in but where have you taken your Noble for these mods?

cheers,

Ant

I'm only small fry but bought mine in January after owning a new 3R in 2003. I found a 12000 mile 2004 car. Runs like a dream and no issues so far.

Have fitted Roush Exhaust, had new bespoke inter cooler and hard pipe kit installed, re positioned air filters and fitted internal double diffuser to aid cooling. Repositioned number plate, Bosch fuel pump and wiring plus Tuxman rear wing and Front Carbon Splitter.

Cooling is working a treat with very little gain in intercooler temps even after a half hour blast!

Won't be selling this one in the foreseeable future, there just too good and too much fun!
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Big Al.

69,336 posts

287 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Guys no names please, N&S and all that.

TYIA


Juno

4,485 posts

278 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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All my cars are looked after by Graham Hathway Racing in Essex who also looks after my race car. He is very knowledgeable and his work is faultless and always carried out with precision and passion at very reasonable cost ;-)

M12WTF

Original Poster:

171 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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That's great to know thanks for the info. I really appreciate it. Essex isn't far from me either wink



Juno said:
All my cars are looked after by Graham Hathway Racing in Essex who also looks after my race car. He is very knowledgeable and his work is faultless and always carried out with precision and passion at very reasonable cost ;-)

anotherdom

535 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Congratulations on the Noble, though sorry you had so many issues to sort.

Jetstream don't have a website; they are located at Bruntingthorpe near Lutterworth (LE17 5QS) and you can contact Matt on 07850 003718.

I would advise the fuel pump wiring mod as a priority. Dave Pike at BCS Exhausts (formerly Urban, contact on 01744 610243) makes a great exhaust, and will also do your fuel pump wiring. Jetstream can provide an exhaust but I have no experience of it - gets good reports on here though.

Your fuel consumption does sound high - I get low 20s mpg on an A road and motorway 45 mile commute, considerably less when driving enthusiastically!

Dom.

RobP

2,097 posts

270 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Welcome Ant! Your fuel consumption figs are rubbish and you should investigate why. Motorway journeys I get 28mpg, general A&B roads 23mpg and on track emmm..about 10mpg. Thats a 7 yr old 56000mi heavily tracked, but very pampered M400. Just goes to show that engines like to be driven and not just looked at ;-)

Blu3R

2,380 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Welcome aboard! I'd suggest that if you're going to do a few mods to your car, do them in one go and then speak to someone called Yellowshed on here. He'll map out whatever is your consumption issue as well as making full advantage of what you've changed.