OT: House Prices....

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Dave_H

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996 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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Ok, not much of a Petrolheads topic, but I presume most of us own one?

I'm thinking of moving, my current 2 bed End of Terrace with double garage house in West London I bought for 59.5K six years ago, the estate agent tells me it's now worth 145K, I'm looking at simular houses in Bucks/berks that are 200K.

I know compared to many houses that I'm way down the ladder as far as prices go, but has it all gone a little bit mad?

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

273 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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Yes it has. I bought a shell as an investment in clerkenwell last year, it's gone up 100k in that time. Our house in maldon has doubled in 4ish years too. Everyone in London / SE I know has experienced the same. Pretty stupid situation for my mates that can't get on the ladder in London now. The rates are going up next month so it should stabilise the market to safer levels.

Dave_H

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Monday 3rd June 2002
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I can only imagine how grim it must be to be a first time buyer these days. When I first bought, it was a buyers market and you could pretty much offer what you liked.

Big change, big, big change

Roadrunner

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Monday 3rd June 2002
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Some of my mates are sooo pissed off with it all now. When I bought my shell last year it was put on the internet in the morning. I had bought it by lunchtime. It's definately a sellers market, at the moment.

ZZR600

15,605 posts

274 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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I know compared to many houses that I'm way down the ladder as far as prices go, but has it all gone a little bit mad?


Ive split up with my gf who i had a house with and even with the money i got back from it i cant afford another at the moment . so im back at home .

Dave_H

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Monday 3rd June 2002
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I'm suprised that the govenment (ha!) have not stopped this, it's got just a little daft as far as I'm concerned.

Friends of mine with a now 300K house in Bucks cant afford to move as the house they want are now 500K

Dave_H

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Ive split up with my gf who i had a house with and even with the money i got back from it i cant afford another at the moment . so im back at home .



I'm single, and with the prices of houses/rate of split ups, I'm wondering if it's the way to stay?

Roadrunner

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Monday 3rd June 2002
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Well the government are powerless to stop it as the bank of england now controls the interest rates, thank god! This means a bit more stability, supposedly, for the economy. If the goverment did control rates and steamed in there hiking them up to cut house prices we would see a crash in prices '89 style. Good for first time buyers, but bad for my car budget (selfish git!).

Dave_H

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but bad for my car budget (selfish git!).



I'm with you on that one

Roadrunner

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Monday 3rd June 2002
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A steady house price rise is good for the economy as I'm sure a few of us will be splashing a bit more around on sportscars, going right back into the economy. I'm too young to know, but I bet Porsche prices took a drop after the last '89ish crash.

Nick W

53 posts

271 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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I'm single, and with the prices of houses/rate of split ups, I'm wondering if it's the way to stay?



Classic comment! If the decision on getting 'itched was down to financial viability the species would die out. Whats financially viable about having kids? Wise up!

>> Edited by Nick W on Monday 3rd June 19:13

Roadrunner

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I have no intentions of adding to this over populated island. I'll leave that to the millions of immigrants and dhs scroates. Ahh, what a bright future lie ahead for this great nation. Not.

>> Edited by Roadrunner on Monday 3rd June 19:20

Dave_H

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996 posts

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Monday 3rd June 2002
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The future's' not so bright really, is it?

I'm not looking to add to the population either.

That would just add to passenger problems with the TVR

Roadrunner

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Exactly! Kids would bugger up my bhp per ton ratio. Strip the buggers out!

Dave_H

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Exactly! Kids would bugger up my bhp per ton ratio. Strip the buggers out!



Hmmmmmmm... Kids/cars... Now let me think what I'd rather

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

273 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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Costs a bloody fortune in maintainence and education these days. Cheaper to keep an elephant with a coke habit. Or a speed six / ferrari on the road.

>> Edited by Roadrunner on Monday 3rd June 20:20

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

282 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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Yes houses are expensive but whats new?

I carried out a simple calculation based upon the price of a house I purchased new in 1971 and the same house which, many owners later, is back on the market. I used the salary for the job equivalent to the one I had then, fairly easy as I worked for HMG in those days. Interestingly in relative terms the house is now marginally cheaper than when I purchased it.

There are hot spots but even 30 odd years ago you had to look hard for an area in the South East where as a young first time buyer you could find an affordable house.

Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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Cambridge and its environs have gone loopey on the house price front too. I bought my place, 10 miles from Cambridge, for 90k five years ago.

I'm single but self-employed, so needed space, any my 90k got me a 4 bed detached. OK, so two of the rooms are shoeboxes, but what the hey.

Identical houses on the same estate are now up for 190-225k! Of course, the equity is bugger all use as to realise it I have to move somewhere less appealing...

MikeyT

16,847 posts

277 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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Really don't know how people can afford houses in the South East and London. Our old cottage 3-bed detahced (1820s) in darkest Peterborough (one hour from the smoke on the train) bought for 68k in 1998 – now worth £175k. Mad. In fact, I couldn't afford to buy it now. But there are plenty of people who can. I don't think the market will crash as dramatically as it did in the late 80s/early 90s as the proportion of disposable income spent on the mortgage is nowhere near as high now as then believe it or not. First house I bought cost £26,995 in 1986 and I thought I was pushing the boat out then ...

philshort

8,293 posts

283 months

Monday 3rd June 2002
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Same here in Rugby. Bought 4 bed corner plot for £90k three years ago. Been monitoring prices in the weekly free sheet, they go up in increments almost on a weekly basis. Had mine valued at £140k six months ago, and there are smaller 4 beds now going for £155k plus, so best estimate now would be £165k for mine.

We're on a new estate of probably 3,000+ houses now, there's never more than a handful for sale as they normally sell within a week. Demand is incredibly strong. New 4 beds on the estate are being sold now for £250k+ by the builders.

As long as demand stays as strong as it is I can't see the price rises abating. Sad thing is generally the only people who benefit are estate agents, solicitors and HM Treasury - your next house is going to be just as expensive so any "profit" you are making is illusory.

It's way beyond time that agents and solicitors got a flat fee rather than a percentage. How much more effort does it take to sell/conveyance a £300k property compared to 2 £100k one?