Self Employment Tax Return
Discussion
I applied online at HRMC a few weeks back for the relevant information required to complete tax returns online. The login details, etc were supposed to be on their way.
Today, I received docs from HRMC but all they've sent me is the Tax Return 2012 form for 6 April 2011 to 5 April 2012. No login details to do this online.
Fair enough I thought, I'll just fill in the form, however, I'm stumped at the part where I'm suppsoed to fill in the 'Self Employment Pages'. These are highlighted in Orange in the 'guide'.
This form doesn't appear to have any 'Self Employment Pages'. It simply goes; Page TR 2, Page E 1, Page E2, Page TR 3 - TR 6. Are there a load of pages from the middle missing here?
Today, I received docs from HRMC but all they've sent me is the Tax Return 2012 form for 6 April 2011 to 5 April 2012. No login details to do this online.
Fair enough I thought, I'll just fill in the form, however, I'm stumped at the part where I'm suppsoed to fill in the 'Self Employment Pages'. These are highlighted in Orange in the 'guide'.
This form doesn't appear to have any 'Self Employment Pages'. It simply goes; Page TR 2, Page E 1, Page E2, Page TR 3 - TR 6. Are there a load of pages from the middle missing here?
You just need to register on this page:
https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/login?GAREASONCODE=-1&a...
You will then get all the log in details you need and can then file online.
Filing online is a milliontimes better than doing a paper version so I would definitely try to get your online account up and running
https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/login?GAREASONCODE=-1&a...
You will then get all the log in details you need and can then file online.
Filing online is a milliontimes better than doing a paper version so I would definitely try to get your online account up and running
That's what I did, I've just done it again. I hit a wall at the 'activation code'.
HRMC said:
Within 7 days we will send you an Activation code through the post. Please go online and use this Activation code to activate your service.
YOUR ACTIVATION CODE WILL EXPIRE AFTER 28 DAYS, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE USE OF IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
This is what I was waiting for last time and then the paper form has arrived today. YOUR ACTIVATION CODE WILL EXPIRE AFTER 28 DAYS, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE USE OF IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
Just an update. I eventually got the required information to log in online a few weeks after making this post. Then once I'd logged in and set everything up I had to wait even longer before any of the returns actually showed up on the system (for some reason they don't appear instantly?).
It was the 15th June when I eventually got to file the tax return.
Good news. No tax due.
Bad news. Today I got a letter demanding £460 for late filing penalties, apparently this is for the period 1st May 2012 to 15th June 2012 (£10 a day for 46 days). Is there any point trying to argue the fees or am I up s
t creek?
It was the 15th June when I eventually got to file the tax return.
Good news. No tax due.
Bad news. Today I got a letter demanding £460 for late filing penalties, apparently this is for the period 1st May 2012 to 15th June 2012 (£10 a day for 46 days). Is there any point trying to argue the fees or am I up s
t creek?Unfortunately it's a Self Assessment for 10/11, I thought I'd already submitted this one at the start of 2011 but I guess that was something else (9/10 most likely!).
I've sort of lost track where I am with all of this after we moved at the end of 2010 and some other issues over the last 2 years and didn't learn there was an outstanding return until I started getting text messages at the end of April.
What I did not know until today was that they changed the rules with regards to penalties, prior to the end of 2011 they couldn't penalise you more than the amount of tax due (so no tax due, no penalty).
I've sort of lost track where I am with all of this after we moved at the end of 2010 and some other issues over the last 2 years and didn't learn there was an outstanding return until I started getting text messages at the end of April.
What I did not know until today was that they changed the rules with regards to penalties, prior to the end of 2011 they couldn't penalise you more than the amount of tax due (so no tax due, no penalty).
I had an accountant, when I had a limited company. Now I'm just self employed doing freelance work but I've not really been earning that much over the last two years, certainly not enough to hire the services of an accountant! Like I said, I wasn't even aware there was an outstanding return until I started getting text messages. Then I phoned them up and they sent out the forms but for 2011-2012 (not the one that was outstanding) hence the issue with getting online in the OP.
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