RS flywheel - good thing / bad thing ?
RS flywheel - good thing / bad thing ?
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wfarrell

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240 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Hello all,

My recently purchased 993 C2 is fitted with an RS solid flywheel; the previous owner couldn't say enough good things about it during the test drive. (btw, i previously had a 964 with the heavier DMF flywheel).

Having had the car for a couple of weeks now, my observations are:
- intrusive low speed gear "chatter"
- very easy to stall in traffic, parking, reversing etc
- car speed is very gradient sensitive (lack of momentum)
- improved pick-up at full throttle (no surprises there)

So, despite the enhanced performance, personally I feel it reduces the car's on-road driveability.

Would a "partially-lightened" 964 Carrera 4 solid flywheel be a better solution for road driving ?

Any thoughts mucho appreciated.

Cheers, Will

Edited by wfarrell on Wednesday 11th April 13:06

MrCooke

796 posts

225 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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If you want it to be more useable then I'd say go back to the standard set up.

FWIW I'm with you: For regular road use, especially in traffic, the RS set up is a pain. I love the tasty, sharp, race-car sounding blips you can give it on the way down the box, but otherwise standard wins every time.

ChrisW.

8,159 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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wfarrell said:
Hello all,

My recently purchased 993 C2 is fitted with an RS solid flywheel; the previous owner couldn't say enough good things about it during the test drive. (btw, i previously had a 964 with the heavier DMF flywheel).

Having had the car for a couple of weeks now, my observations are:
- intrusive low speed gear "chatter"
- very easy to stall in traffic, parking, reversing etc
- car speed is very gradient sensitive (lack of momentum)
- improved pick-up at full throttle (no surprises there)

So, despite the enhanced performance, personally I feel it reduces the car's on-road driveability.

Would a "partially-lightened" 964 Carrera 4 solid flywheel be a better solution for road driving ?

Any thoughts mucho appreciated.

Cheers, Will

Edited by wfarrell on Wednesday 11th April 13:06
It depends upon what you want ...

I have never found chatter when driving, only when idling in neutral ....
Stalling in traffic is only a question of experience .... subject to the tickover being good, which (unlike the 964RS) a 993 should be
Engine inertia is not power, so maybe a higher gear would be the solution on a gradient ...
Tactility, heel and toe in quicker down-changes and faster up-changes, general crispness and responsiveness are the balancing argument. All better on an RS ...





BertBert

21,306 posts

241 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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my 3.8 "RSR spec" engine will not have the dual mass flywheel! Let's hope it drives ok!!

Nurburgsingh

5,557 posts

268 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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I'm hoping it's a good thing I've just spent a kin fortune having mine fitted...

ean21

421 posts

229 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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There is a replacement ECU chip for the stalling problem on a 964. I don't know if the same fix is available for the 993 but it would be worth looking into. Once example is a Steve Wong chip. No affiliation etc...

ChrisW.

8,159 posts

285 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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To my 964RS I fitted Motec and larger injectors to a fully rebuilt blueprinted engine, ARP bolts, titanium valve inserts, oversized mains, high capacity oil pump etc.

Perfect tickover, very light flywheel, over 310lb ft of torque at 4800 rpm and almost 320 bhp at 6000 rpm. Perfectly balanced and no stress.

What's not to like ?

RSGulp

1,472 posts

269 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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My 964RS ticks over like a swiss watch and I don't think I've EVER stalled the engine despite the lighter RS flywheel.

Both the 964 and 993 depend on properly sealed induction for a smooth idle. If you're stalling a lot perhaps you have a vacuum/air leak?

blackmamba

833 posts

266 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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I have had a couple of cars with a lightweight flywheel and while they take a little time to get used to, they are wonderful and very little bother after a few weeks.

Give it a few months of use and then decide - I think you will like it after a little time.