996 GT3 RS - an appreciating asset?
996 GT3 RS - an appreciating asset?
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agtlaw

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7,415 posts

236 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Five cars in the classifieds.

£73,950 - 13,800 miles. Private sale.
£69,995 - 20,800 miles. Targa Florio.
£69,000 - 35,985 miles. Private sale.
£P.O.A. - 38,853 miles. Malton. Cup car spec.
£P.O.A. - 27,589 miles. Malton.

These cars have been around £60,000 for years now. Have I missed something?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Too much money chasing scarce goods?

cragswinter

21,429 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Until they sell, the asking price is immaterial.

You actually bought one then thomo? Spa wasn't the same this year without your imprint in the barriers wink

keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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cragswinter said:
You actually bought one then thomo? Spa wasn't the same this year without your imprint in the barriers wink
lol

paul0843

2,006 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Definately.. I remember them as low as £50k

GT3-RS

1,085 posts

249 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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agtlaw said:
Five cars in the classifieds.

£73,950 - 13,800 miles. Private sale.
£69,995 - 20,800 miles. Targa Florio.
£69,000 - 35,985 miles. Private sale.
£P.O.A. - 38,853 miles. Malton. Cup car spec.
£P.O.A. - 27,589 miles. Malton.

These cars have been around £60,000 for years now. Have I missed something?
yeah....yer need to buy another one pronto.....biggrin

Wetwipe

3,019 posts

243 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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Yep I remember them dropping to early 50's but only until they fell out the OPC sales network.

Can't ever see them going south anytime soon. If you want to put your folding into a 996 the RS or a straight '2 are the best place

zero corrosion

470 posts

218 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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Agreed
Nice 996 GT2 and the GT3 RS due to rarity alone.

I am considering a GT2 i know there are a few knocking about on here for sale, some with dubious history i hasten to add and probably why they are still here.

The one at Henrys looks good value, i was surprised actually thought he had got it on too cheap!!
Would like ideally a Midnight Blue one to be honest.

As stated the GT3 RS and GT2 would be good appreciating assets long-term

Wetwipe

3,019 posts

243 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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zero corrosion said:
Agreed
Nice 996 GT2 and the GT3 RS due to rarity alone.

I am considering a GT2 i know there are a few knocking about on here for sale, some with dubious history i hasten to add and probably why they are still here.

The one at Henrys looks good value, i was surprised actually thought he had got it on too cheap!!
Would like ideally a Midnight Blue one to be honest.

As stated the GT3 RS and GT2 would be good appreciating assets long-term
The car at Henry's looks lovely and good value. The sports seats are a bit marmite but otherwise it looks great. Midnight is a great colour. Slippy's GT2 was midnight and that looked ace.

Must admit that MK2 GT3 H has in stock looks very nice!

Dynamo69

124 posts

220 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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Which is the one at Henrys ? .. i can't seem to find it .. cheers

freedman

6,018 posts

237 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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Dynamo69 said:
Which is the one at Henrys ? .. i can't seem to find it .. cheers
http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/286/996GT2/



DiscoColin

3,328 posts

244 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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zero corrosion said:
As stated the GT3 RS and GT2 would be good appreciating assets long-term
I am still unconvinced about the 996 GT2 in general, though rarity should hold up the genuine Clubsports in the long run - especially the Mk2s. As for the 996RS, do remember that Spring is the top of the seasonal pricing for GT3s (correspondingly being the lowest supply), but even so I think that they are drifting slightly up now. I have never noticed straight ones dipping below the mid 50s even in the depths of a winter in recession and 60-70 has typically been the asking price for them for about 5 consecutive years now. Consequently, while everyone could continue to debate whether they are or will be going up, recent history would at least seem to assert that they simply aren't going down. Probably ever.

I'd further add that for the 996RS I reckon that if you are really all about residuals, LHD is probably the better option too if you can get a nice one (AFAIK the 996 has the greatest proportion of RHD cars for an RS, whereas the majority of countries where it wasn't originally marketed {potential markets for collectors} like to sit on the wrong side of the car).

Also - as I have said elsewhere, Mk1 996 GT3 Clubsports are probably a safe long term bet (at a lower entry price point) if you can find a nice one too, and I don't see the Mk2 as much of a depreciation hole either.

ClassicCarMad

385 posts

203 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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DiscoColin said:
zero corrosion said:
As stated the GT3 RS and GT2 would be good appreciating assets long-term
I am still unconvinced about the 996 GT2 in general, though rarity should hold up the genuine Clubsports in the long run - especially the Mk2s. As for the 996RS, do remember that Spring is the top of the seasonal pricing for GT3s (correspondingly being the lowest supply), but even so I think that they are drifting slightly up now. I have never noticed straight ones dipping below the mid 50s even in the depths of a winter in recession and 60-70 has typically been the asking price for them for about 5 consecutive years now. Consequently, while everyone could continue to debate whether they are or will be going up, recent history would at least seem to assert that they simply aren't going down. Probably ever.

I'd further add that for the 996RS I reckon that if you are really all about residuals, LHD is probably the better option too if you can get a nice one (AFAIK the 996 has the greatest proportion of RHD cars for an RS, whereas the majority of countries where it wasn't originally marketed {potential markets for collectors} like to sit on the wrong side of the car).

Also - as I have said elsewhere, Mk1 996 GT3 Clubsports are probably a safe long term bet (at a lower entry price point) if you can find a nice one too, and I don't see the Mk2 as much of a depreciation hole either.
Don't agree on your comments re the GT2 its a special car and always has been, and is the flagship of the model range coupled with starship performance, whether in club sport or lux guise amazing cars!

I think GT3 Mk 1's and the without doubt the RS variant will be very safe bets, as we can see the GT3 Mk 2 have dropped significantly and isn't the favoured model for some reason, might be build numbers.

No as mentioned earlier the GT2 and GT3 RS will be good areas to have your hard earned.

keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Monday 9th April 2012
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I think any 6GT car is a good place for your money and a great place for you right now.

kayc

4,492 posts

251 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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agtlaw said:
Five cars in the classifieds.

£73,950 - 13,800 miles. Private sale.
£69,995 - 20,800 miles. Targa Florio.
£69,000 - 35,985 miles. Private sale.
£P.O.A. - 38,853 miles. Malton. Cup car spec.
£P.O.A. - 27,589 miles. Malton.

These cars have been around £60,000 for years now. Have I missed something?
Personally i think the 996RS became relatively too cheap compared to other so-called rare/special models which is why i sold my 964 turbo(3.3)to buy an 996rs..to me the price differential appeared to be wrong between the 2 cars taking age/performance/rarity etc into account..also as has been discovered previously with 911's just because a new model comes out e.g the 997 gt3rs it doesnt necessarily meant it is better/more desirable than the previous car..just different..so £60k for a low mileage 996rs started to look too cheap...doesnt a brand new M3/C63 cost that?

Wetwipe

3,019 posts

243 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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kayc said:
ersonally i think the 996RS became relatively too cheap compared to other so-called rare/special models which is why i sold my 964 turbo(3.3)to buy an 996rs..to me the price differential appeared to be wrong between the 2 cars taking age/performance/rarity etc into account..also as has been discovered previously with 911's just because a new model comes out e.g the 997 gt3rs it doesnt necessarily meant it is better/more desirable than the previous car..just different..so £60k for a low mileage 996rs started to look too cheap...doesnt a brand new M3/C63 cost that?
I remember thinking this at the time! Alas I never had the spare dosh to do anything about it!

I suspect the '6 RS is also a better ownership proposition than the '64 Turbo (in terms of maintenance etc)

MrCooke

796 posts

225 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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DiscoColin said:
assert that they simply aren't going down. Probably ever.

I'd further add that for the 996RS I reckon that if you are really all about residuals, LHD is probably the better option too if you can get a nice one (AFAIK the 996 has the greatest proportion of RHD cars for an RS, whereas the majority of countries where it wasn't originally marketed {potential markets for collectors} like to sit on the wrong side of the car).

Also - as I have said elsewhere, Mk1 996 GT3 Clubsports are probably a safe long term bet (at a lower entry price point) if you can find a nice one too, and I don't see the Mk2 as much of a depreciation hole either.
I'd only buy LHD for investment if you have the money in a LHD currency. A 10% change in exchange rates could easily trim £6k from the sterling value of such a car. It could also easily add the same, but it's a brave gamble in the current climate.

You don't stand as much chance of making a fortune on RHD but the risk is lower.

gibbon

2,182 posts

237 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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MrCooke said:
I'd only buy LHD for investment if you have the money in a LHD currency. A 10% change in exchange rates could easily trim £6k from the sterling value of such a car. It could also easily add the same, but it's a brave gamble in the current climate.

You don't stand as much chance of making a fortune on RHD but the risk is lower.
You could very easily hedge that risk if you are that way inclined.

MrCooke

796 posts

225 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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It's just about adjusting your driving style, lift off when you get under steer and you may well hedge it. Just keep your foot it. wink

phib

4,520 posts

289 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Had a few 911's can some one please explain why you would go for a 996 gt3 rs over say a 997gt3rs fornvery similar money ?
Phib