air ambulance landing in town centre
air ambulance landing in town centre
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jayb289

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124 posts

185 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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was on my way to a good friday gathering to meet some friends in greater london and noticed the streets were blocked off, there was an accident and the air ambulance turned up, always a pleasure to see a skillful pilot in action, just hope the lady pulls through http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6m1bE4J3-Q

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Technically, that MD Explorer (HEMS - Helicopter Emergency Medical Service) is not specifically an Air Ambulance (although it says so on the sides).

It's actually a rapid response vehicle, designed to get specialist medical staff to the scene as quickly as possible. You'll see that the helicopter arrived and appeared to depart without evacuating the patient.

I think it's the only such helicopter in the country that operates in this way, but is hugely valuable to saving lives in London where even a short road journey can take too long.

The NOTAR enables it to land in some very tight spaces with greater safety.

Great asset, and like all the air ambulances, relies on our on-going goodwill to support them. See http://www.airambulanceassociation.co.uk/find_your...


Edited by Geneve on Sunday 8th April 12:25

twister

1,588 posts

265 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Geneve said:
Technically, that MD Explorer (G-HEMS - Helicopter Emergency Medical Service) is not an Air Ambulance (although it says so on the sides).
Isn't it? Their own website states that "The helicopter is equipped to take a patient to the hospital but this is not always the case" - does that not make it an air ambulance when being used in that role? Granted, it might not always be used to get the patient back to the hospital, making it more of an "air ambulance that from time to time, maybe even more often than not, I'm not sure, we'd have to check the flight logs, gets used as a rapid response vehicle instead", but I'm not sure that would fit on the side of the fuselage...

BTW, G-HEMS was the Dauphin that worked the service from its inception in 1989, being replaced in 2000 by the Explorer G-EHMS.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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All Air Ambulances are effectively Rapid Response vehicles under that definition. Many carry doctors, and they are called either where speed of transfer is important or more specialised crew than those on ambulances are needed. They will all often depart an accident without a patient, just depends on the nature of the call. The best means of transfer for the patient will always be used.

jayb289

Original Poster:

124 posts

185 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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it did evacuate the patient in this instance, i just didnt start recording the take off until she was inside and out of sight.

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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twister said:
BTW, G-HEMS was the Dauphin that worked the service from its inception in 1989, being replaced in 2000 by the Explorer G-EHMS.
G-HEMS is currently in service with the Great North Air Ambulance Service.

onyx39

11,349 posts

179 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Reminds me of this clip, taken on the A316 between Hounslow and Sunbury, the skills these pilots show daily landing in these tight spots I find just mind blowing!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESaNTDLigXw&fea...

wildone63

1,046 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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This one was very tight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIHViUOcvsk
I was held up in the traffic on the other side of the Tweed that day.

ShampooEfficient

4,278 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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MonkeyHanger said:
twister said:
BTW, G-HEMS was the Dauphin that worked the service from its inception in 1989, being replaced in 2000 by the Explorer G-EHMS.
G-HEMS is currently in service with the Great North Air Ambulance Service.
I knew I recognised it, despite me knowing as much about helicopters as I so the surface of the moon...

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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ShampooEfficient said:
MonkeyHanger said:
twister said:
BTW, G-HEMS was the Dauphin that worked the service from its inception in 1989, being replaced in 2000 by the Explorer G-EHMS.
G-HEMS is currently in service with the Great North Air Ambulance Service.
I knew I recognised it, despite me knowing as much about helicopters as I so the surface of the moon...
A slight correction....it WAS with GNAA. It seems the lease ran out recently and it has been replaced. smile

thehawk

9,335 posts

236 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Most impressive one I have seen is landing at the intersection of Tottenham Court Rd and Oxford St, which I have no idea what it was doing as would have thought the proximity to at least 2 major hospitals within minutes would have made it a bit pointless.

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

311 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Traffic is hurrendous there though.

Also maybe the injury was something the two nearest hospitals could not deal with.

baldy1926

2,153 posts

229 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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mattdaniels said:
Traffic is hurrendous there though.

Also maybe the injury was something the two nearest hospitals could not deal with.
You will find that uch the nearest hospital is not classed as major trama they would go either to st marys or the royal london. Which in london traffic can take ages.. Don't forget that london traffic after an accident very very quickly grinds to a halt.
The hems chopper is currentlty in the process of becoming 24hours.
You also have hems vehicle at various stand by points around london. They currently use skoda octavia vrs's and they have a four wheel drive vehicle which i cant what make model it is.

onyx39

11,349 posts

179 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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baldy1926 said:
mattdaniels said:
Traffic is hurrendous there though.

Also maybe the injury was something the two nearest hospitals could not deal with.
You will find that uch the nearest hospital is not classed as major trama they would go either to st marys or the royal london. Which in london traffic can take ages.. Don't forget that london traffic after an accident very very quickly grinds to a halt.
The hems chopper is currentlty in the process of becoming 24hours.
You also have hems vehicle at various stand by points around london. They currently use skoda octavia vrs's and they have a four wheel drive vehicle which i cant what make model it is.
I remember seeing a fly on the wall documentary a few years ago and they were using Audi's after dark. I always assumed that all casualtys were helicoptered to the Royal London as a matter of course (unless by land ambulance obviously)

Cheib

25,358 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Geneve said:
Technically, that MD Explorer (HEMS - Helicopter Emergency Medical Service) is not specifically an Air Ambulance (although it says so on the sides).

It's actually a rapid response vehicle, designed to get specialist medical staff to the scene as quickly as possible. You'll see that the helicopter arrived and appeared to depart without evacuating the patient.

Edited by Geneve on Sunday 8th April 12:25
Yes...it's about getting the hospital to the patient rather than the patient to the hospital.

From their website

The Team, which at all times includes a Senior Trauma Doctor and a specially trained Paramedic, perform advanced medical interventions, normally only found in the Hospital Emergency Department, in time critical, life threatening situations.

They have actually saved a friend of mine's life so have taken quite an interest in it since.

baldy1926

2,153 posts

229 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Cheib said:
Yes...it's about getting the hospital to the patient rather than the patient to the hospital.

From their website

The Team, which at all times includes a Senior Trauma Doctor and a specially trained Paramedic, perform advanced medical interventions, normally only found in the Hospital Emergency Department, in time critical, life threatening situations.

They have actually saved a friend of mine's life so have taken quite an interest in it since.
Seen them do surgery in the street a couple of times which wel impressive.

Many years ago think it was 1990 i was living in a section house in the city and used to drink with a ex army pilot who was one of the pilots. Boy could he drink!

onyx39

11,349 posts

179 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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baldy1926 said:
Cheib said:
Yes...it's about getting the hospital to the patient rather than the patient to the hospital.

From their website

The Team, which at all times includes a Senior Trauma Doctor and a specially trained Paramedic, perform advanced medical interventions, normally only found in the Hospital Emergency Department, in time critical, life threatening situations.

They have actually saved a friend of mine's life so have taken quite an interest in it since.
Seen them do surgery in the street a couple of times which wel impressive.

Many years ago think it was 1990 i was living in a section house in the city and used to drink with a ex army pilot who was one of the pilots. Boy could he drink!
Going back many years, one of my mums neighbours decided to try and kill his wife with a carving knife... this was apparently in the very early days of the London Air Ambulance and the wife finished up having surgery on my friends mums kitchen table....


TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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That's what I love about this forum, even if you find something unusual or interesting, a passing expert is always at hand to make sure you use the correct terminology.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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TheEnd said:
That's what I love about this forum, even if you find something unusual or interesting, a passing expert is always at hand to make sure you use the correct terminology.
I think you'll find they're "on hand"' not at.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Yep, 0% tolerance to any errors or omissions.

I'll now claim dyslexia.