1982 Porsche 944 Lux
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I own a Pewter Metallic Porsche 944 Lux I have had it since 1987 so 25 years in my possession. It has covered apporx 134,000 miles and is in what I would call extremely good condition. I was stored for 6 years in dry storage it was recommissioned in 2011 at a cost of £2.5k
It is completley umolested.
Although I have had the seats reupholstered by a Porsche Specialist in magnolia hide and dark brown piping it suits the carpets and brown interior trim.
Im not really getting any use out of this what would you consider to be a realistic value for sale for this car. Its far better than the stuff I have seen on ebay and it still pulls like a train/
all belts replaced. In all a lovely car. Is there a premium for early production cars?
It is completley umolested.
Although I have had the seats reupholstered by a Porsche Specialist in magnolia hide and dark brown piping it suits the carpets and brown interior trim.
Im not really getting any use out of this what would you consider to be a realistic value for sale for this car. Its far better than the stuff I have seen on ebay and it still pulls like a train/
all belts replaced. In all a lovely car. Is there a premium for early production cars?
Values are really bad for Luxes of all ages, unless they are really exceptional. Sadly that often means low mileage, certainly not 6-figure mileage, despite cars that have had a lack of use often being worse buys.
There are some good examples being offered at just under the £4K mark, but selling price is often very different from advertised price. This is the price point for a useable S2, and even entry-level turbos, so you are after the rare person who wants an early Lux specifically, and has the money to pay for the best. They are out there, as usual Tipec and PCGB are good places to advertise it along with PH.
Advertised well, with details of all the work done at the re-commisioning and lots of good photos, particularly of areas such as the inside of the sills, should lift the car above much of the rubbish out there. Key things are the bodywork condition, followed by all the major mechanical areas 944s are prone to such as head gasket, belt interval, brake caliper condition, brake and fuel lines, clutch etc. On a car that's been laid up all the rubber parts like oil seals, tyres and belts should have been renewed.
There are some good examples being offered at just under the £4K mark, but selling price is often very different from advertised price. This is the price point for a useable S2, and even entry-level turbos, so you are after the rare person who wants an early Lux specifically, and has the money to pay for the best. They are out there, as usual Tipec and PCGB are good places to advertise it along with PH.
Advertised well, with details of all the work done at the re-commisioning and lots of good photos, particularly of areas such as the inside of the sills, should lift the car above much of the rubbish out there. Key things are the bodywork condition, followed by all the major mechanical areas 944s are prone to such as head gasket, belt interval, brake caliper condition, brake and fuel lines, clutch etc. On a car that's been laid up all the rubber parts like oil seals, tyres and belts should have been renewed.
I think its one of those cars which is worth what someone is prepared to pay, without seeing it no can value the thing accurately. To put it into perspective there are people paying over £1,000 for a set of tyres and others paying the value of this car just for an aftermarket exhaust for their Porsche. It's a weekend bit of fun for someone and a genuinely good car will always find a home providing you're sensible. It will never be worth a fortune I'm afraid just because of what it is.
In an ideal world someone would be looking for an '86 model onwards 944 with the oval dash. Having said that given the car's advanced years and the fact most are scrap it really is down to the condition. The fact you've owned it for so long doesn't necessarily have any bearing on its condition that will be entirely down to the car. I'm guessing in the £1k-3k bracket but who knows unseen ?
Even with some photos you would have to see it in the flesh to price it, unless there is something glaringly obvious from the photos in which case you would know about the problem yourself.
Good luck in selling it on.
Henry
In an ideal world someone would be looking for an '86 model onwards 944 with the oval dash. Having said that given the car's advanced years and the fact most are scrap it really is down to the condition. The fact you've owned it for so long doesn't necessarily have any bearing on its condition that will be entirely down to the car. I'm guessing in the £1k-3k bracket but who knows unseen ?
Even with some photos you would have to see it in the flesh to price it, unless there is something glaringly obvious from the photos in which case you would know about the problem yourself.
Good luck in selling it on.
Henry
Henry-F said:
In an ideal world someone would be looking for an '86 model onwards 944 with the oval dash.
Henry
Slightly disagree with you there. Although there are some people who will consider a 25-year-old car a safer bet than a 27-year-old one, only the last of the 2.7 Luxes really seem to have some extra "value" in buyer's eyes.Henry
I think there's a market for an early Lux as more of a classic car; if you're going for a 944 as a cheap classic it's arguably the purest version, with no PAS and the period interior to give it proper character. I'd always direct people to a 924S as the best way of buying an early 944 Lux, but decent early-dash cars will continue to have a market, and the reducing number of really good ones will make them more sought-after. Not to the extent that they'll be a pension fund, but perhaps a better long-term prospect than an average oval-dash Lux?
Can you work backwards from this one regards values ??
http://www.paragongb.com/cars/Porsche+944+G287NBT
http://www.paragongb.com/cars/Porsche+944+G287NBT
dibblecorse said:
Can you work backwards from this one regards values ??
http://www.paragongb.com/cars/Porsche+944+G287NBT
That looks nice but wouldn't you rather have this tip-top Turbo for not much more? http://www.paragongb.com/cars/Porsche+944+G287NBT
There is a chap in the local TIPEC group who has a concours early 944 Lux in gold, which apparently has an insurance valuation of £12,000 - I'm not sure it'd ever be possible to sell it for anywhere near that though.
The OP's car looks nice from the photo and unless you really need to, I don't think it's worth selling for what you'd get.
Angelus said:
Is that 928 wheels on that Turbo Goose?
Is the concourse car you're talking about, the earliest one in the country? I read an article about one that was so early, it didn't even have a proper 944 badge because they hadn't been made when the car shipped?
They are the same style as a 928 but I believe they are correctly the Clubsport option for the Turbo, still available new for £3000 a set Is the concourse car you're talking about, the earliest one in the country? I read an article about one that was so early, it didn't even have a proper 944 badge because they hadn't been made when the car shipped?
Sorry, I don't know much more about the gold car, except the owner is Steve (who I know to chat to if I bump into) and he has it looked after by Unit 11.
thegoose said:
That looks nice but wouldn't you rather have this tip-top Turbo for not much more?
There is a chap in the local TIPEC group who has a concours early 944 Lux in gold, which apparently has an insurance valuation of £12,000 - I'm not sure it'd ever be possible to sell it for anywhere near that though.
Personally I don't want a turbo, the S2 is perfectly capable on UK roads and as fast as you can need unless you track it. The early Lux is a great car if that's what you're after, so buyers won't be comparing it with a turbo.There is a chap in the local TIPEC group who has a concours early 944 Lux in gold, which apparently has an insurance valuation of £12,000 - I'm not sure it'd ever be possible to sell it for anywhere near that though.
I've certainly valued early cars at over £10K, that would be an insurance value, not a guide to a sale price. It would have to be very low miles (under 50K probably), immaculate condition and perfect history. The point of an agreed-value classic policy is that you would have to spend over £10K to get a car to replace one that exceptional. Not my thing at all, but by the same token I've valued concourse turbos at £15K that won't be as good to drive as a cheap turbo with some decent mods on it. Concourse cars, really only fit for a museum, are rare and do have a value to a small number of buyers. I'd rather rack up the miles and the parking scrapes and enjoy the thing myself.
Dont critisize the number plate that has long been changed lol Its still a beautifull car and even with the mileage its still on on its second clutch the first one dyin g at 112,000 miles...
The servicing up until 6 years ago was done by Porschembri of Hounslow, really nice guy and laterly by Orchard gargage specialist cars in Yalding.
The car is back in storage whislt I am in Haiti, so I guess with a value of £1200.00 (half the last bill)I will carry on storing it at £100.00 pm along with my Harleys..
Brigg said:
The car is back in storage whislt I am in Haiti, so I guess with a value of £1200.00 (half the last bill)I will carry on storing it at £100.00 pm along with my Harleys..
Who said it's value is £1200? I suggested that, if the recommissioning included all the important bits and the sills are sound internally, it would be worth trying for £3K or more. Good examples are being priced higher now, and we need to talk the cars up! Bear in mind that storage will only mean needing to re-do some of the previous work even if you don't drive it.pauljmcnulty said:
Who said it's value is £1200? I suggested that, if the recommissioning included all the important bits and the sills are sound internally, it would be worth trying for £3K or more. Good examples are being priced higher now, and we need to talk the cars up! Bear in mind that storage will only mean needing to re-do some of the previous work even if you don't drive it.
Sorry 1500.... The car is rock solid, garaged for the lastr 25 years and I confirm at least £15k+ has been lavished on this.There will still be things that need to be done, I need replace the rear wing at some stage, only for cosmetics really, there are a few tiny irritating pinholes The front spoiler need a scratch specialist, for two or 3 minor marks.
The thing I love about this car is the rock solid handling, and the precision steering even at this age... there are two roundabouts on the outside maidstone slightly offset to each other and within 50 meters of each other near what used to tbe the Great Danes Hotel... it one of those rare experineces where the slightest touch of the sterring wheel at about 49.9mpg (closer 80) that gives you the thrill just a flick of the wheel and you know you have a class machine.
The other thing I like is I can feel this car sticks to the road above a certain mph... Oh I think I will have this for life as ists worth 9p..
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