at least 4000 cayman Rs have been built?
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just been looking on the planet-9 forum and their (usa)last chassis numbers for end of build(feb.2012) are in excess of 3500(last 4 digits).on the porsche approved site chassis numbers are already hitting 1500(for cars that were registered end of 2011 early 2012).correct me if i am wrong but you have 2 sets of chassis numbers usa and row(rest of world).so that would put the cayman R build in excess of 4000,twice as many boxster spyders
Edited by mayes911 on Saturday 24th March 17:51
mayes911 said:
only 110 registered by q3 2011 according to howmanyleft.co but many of the cars arrived q4 2011 and q1 2012.many cars will still be coming to the market throughout the year as no new cayman being built to 2013.i questemate 400 cars will be sold in the uk double the spyder.
That is pure speculation and not grounded on economic reality. q4 of 2011 was a bad quarter for the stockmarket and for the UKi think you are going to be very wrong on this. All the cars that are going to be in the UK have now arrived. Cayman production stopped in Feb. 2012 and given the impending 981 boxster release has meant that it is more than likely for Cayman R numbers in the UK to be less than the already rare spyder. My prediction is a max of 150 including Q1 of 2012.
In the U.S, it seems that the numbers are higher.
hokumpokum what you have to realise is porsche uk were still releasing the spyder 6 months after the last one was built(i should know i have one).i would not be suprised if there are in excess of 50 cars in holding waiting to be realesed over the next 12 months.anyone ordering a car q3 would have wanted a 61 plate so the figures for q4 will be double q3 (forget economic climate its been like that for the last 3years) anyone wanting a 2012/61 or last production run will be double again.i still think there will be in excess of 400 regd cayman Rs and very few cayman s/black for 2012 model year for the uk.the cayman R only started to be built in the early part of 2011 when production was not in full swing.
porsche approved have nearly 30 cars on their books and that is not the full picture i can assure you
porsche approved have nearly 30 cars on their books and that is not the full picture i can assure you
mayes911 said:
hokumpokum what you have to realise is porsche uk were still releasing the spyder 6 months after the last one was built(i should know i have one).i would not be suprised if there are in excess of 50 cars in holding waiting to be realesed over the next 12 months.anyone ordering a car q3 would have wanted a 61 plate so the figures for q4 will be double q3 (forget economic climate its been like that for the last 3years) anyone wanting a 2012/61 or last production run will be double again.i still think there will be in excess of 400 regd cayman Rs and very few cayman s/black for 2012 model year for the uk.the cayman R only started to be built in the early part of 2011 when production was not in full swing.
porsche approved have nearly 30 cars on their books and that is not the full picture i can assure you
i don't agree with your assessment on this. only time will time. where are the Q4 numbers.......porsche approved have nearly 30 cars on their books and that is not the full picture i can assure you
mayes911 said:
hokumpokum what you have to realise is porsche uk were still releasing the spyder 6 months after the last one was built(i should know i have one).i would not be suprised if there are in excess of 50 cars in holding waiting to be realesed over the next 12 months.anyone ordering a car q3 would have wanted a 61 plate so the figures for q4 will be double q3 (forget economic climate its been like that for the last 3years) anyone wanting a 2012/61 or last production run will be double again.i still think there will be in excess of 400 regd cayman Rs and very few cayman s/black for 2012 model year for the uk.the cayman R only started to be built in the early part of 2011 when production was not in full swing.
porsche approved have nearly 30 cars on their books and that is not the full picture i can assure you
I'm not sure whether it is still the case but I was offered a very aggressive deal on a Cayman R towards the tail end of last year. The dealer called up and asked if I'd be interested in a strong discount, coupled with an attractive finance package and a strong guaranteed buy-back. I'm sure there are still strong deals to be had if there are still Cayman Rs in stock.porsche approved have nearly 30 cars on their books and that is not the full picture i can assure you
IMHO, the issue with it is that the R is neither fish nor fowl. If Porsche had allowed it to be a pure track car (a mini GT3, it could have been brilliant); however, they didn't so it feels like a slightly tarted Cayman. The Boxster Spyder wins because of the roof and the tarty bits, the Cayman R simply fails to feel special imho. I was lent one for a few days whilst my GTS was in for a service and the R failed to impress in the drive stakes - was it a well balanced car? Yep. However, it always felt like it needed more power/torque. A shame but imho, they just aren't where they need to be in the performance stakes.
anonymous said:
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For track use, power to weight is important and that is what Porsche were trying to lean the Cayman R toward.Personally, I found the Cayman R uninspiring to drive and whilst I agree the general power obsession is pointless (read AMG and M-Power), I couldn't shake the feeling that the Cayman R had been neutered to ensure it stayed away from the 911. As per my post above, the handling was excellent and I have no doubt it could handle 25%+ more bhp without any adverse effects but Porsche simply won't allow that to happen due to protection of the 911 halo.
anonymous said:
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Agreed.However, to do that would be to decimate the value; therefore, it has to be very cheap to begin with OR you have to be willing to say 'depreciation be damned!'
I'd want to strip it out, put a stubby cage in the back section, drop some proper seats in it with 5-point harnesses, upgrade the brakes and suspension for a start. You're much better off finding an early Cayman and doing the same imho.
Lightningman said:
Personally, I found the Cayman R uninspiring to drive and whilst I agree the general power obsession is pointless (read AMG and M-Power), I couldn't shake the feeling that the Cayman R had been neutered to ensure it stayed away from the 911. As per my post above, the handling was excellent and I have no doubt it could handle 25%+ more bhp without any adverse effects but Porsche simply won't allow that to happen due to protection of the 911 halo.
I agree - I found it a great car initially, but over the couple of days I had one, it didn't give me the rush of my car or my previous Exige S when driving a bit harder.last I checked there were about 80 unsold cars in production still to arrive on dealer forecourts and about 25-30 including demonstrators for sale on the approved opc site...once they get snapped up it'll be true to say that it's quite a rare car (I would assume UK build of approx 200) but way too many for sale currently for it not to be quite a risky purchase depreciation wise unless you're stealing one...bet there are some cracking deals to be had though...
I think you are all missing the point.
The Cayman R is not a GT3.
In the right hands on a wet day it is faster than a GT3 ... and it is also a fabulous every day driver.
In the right hands on a dry day, it's not far behind a GT3, ... and it is also a fabulous every day driver.
It will be cheaper to run, cheaper to track and cheaper to buy new.
They are currently the bargain of the century ... at £40k.
The Cayman R is not a GT3.
In the right hands on a wet day it is faster than a GT3 ... and it is also a fabulous every day driver.
In the right hands on a dry day, it's not far behind a GT3, ... and it is also a fabulous every day driver.
It will be cheaper to run, cheaper to track and cheaper to buy new.
They are currently the bargain of the century ... at £40k.
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