Gen11 2.9 Cayman v Cayman S Gen1
Gen11 2.9 Cayman v Cayman S Gen1
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DC5TEG

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307 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Still hard at the research, but there is not a great deal of info floating about on the 2.9 Generation 2 Cayman.
From the quotes i could see, some owners on here commented that straight line speed on the 2.9 was very similar to the Cayman S Gen1 cars.

What other similarities are there as far as the drive goes.

Any Gen2 2.9 owners on here who've experienced both cars mentioned.


Just trying to weigh up all my options. If i cannot afford the Gen 2 S, then is the Non S gen2 a good substitute with very little performance difference to the Gen1 S that i would end up with??


Trev450

6,770 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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I can recall a particularly spirited drive in my Gen 1 S with a friend who had a 2.9 gen 2, and despite the fact that we have competed on track many times together previously and have found ourselves to be on a par in similar machinery, on this occasion I was not having any problem in keeping up and still had some more in reserve. You have to work the 2.9 harder than the S and although this can be quite rewarding at times, it can also be a bit tiresome.

I would suggest you drive both and make your own mind up.

Mutt

1,115 posts

221 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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As Trev says. They're broadly similar most of the time, but when it comes down to it the S still has 40 more bhp and this will be felt when driving hard.

I was very impressed with the gen 2 Cayman 2.9 and would consider one, even above a gen 2 S. Sometimes less is more!

LTCayman

11 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Either Gen 2 car is great IMO, but I did notice a considerable difference when in a new 2.9 for a week compared to my own Gen 2 'S'

If you can put a considerable value on the 'difference' i.e £5k or so on purchase price then you have a tough choice. The 2.9 Gen 2 has all the advantages & with decent wheels/spec, it looks pretty much identical, it could have PCM 3

I found like a poster above you have to work the 2.9 harder than the 's' but on todays roads how useable is an 's' compared to a 2.9................its hard to use anything like the potential available.

I did drive the gen 1 'S' with sport chrono & nice spec & was really impressed, but I wanted the additional features of the Gen 2 car, tough one really, If I had the choice it would probably be a Gen 2 2.9 over a Gen 1 'S', unless of course you can find a mint Gen 1 'S' for sub 20K!

Edited by LTCayman on Tuesday 20th March 13:27


Edited by LTCayman on Tuesday 20th March 13:30

DC5TEG

Original Poster:

307 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Thanks very much guys for your honest opinions, much appreciated.

I am home from Iraq fairly soon, and OPC is my first stop. Just hoping i get the option to drive the 2.9 and the Gen 1 S back to back.

I am fully with you guys on some of the points, mentioned, more is not always best. I sold my EVO 6 for this very reason, it was just to damm quick for B roads as far as i was concerned. I class myself as a fairly competent driver and for me to get enjoyment out of my EVO i had to be going at silly speed, something thankfully i have grown out of!!

I do like Power, don't we all, and the car will be used on track, but the biggest % will be on B roads. As you say, try both, drive both, however always nice to get some honest opinions on it.


DC5TEG

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307 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Meant to add.

I actually enjoy cars you have to work hard to get the most from. Currently drive an FD2 and had plenty Type Rs previous to this, its all part of the buzz.

NA55

71 posts

185 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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DC5TEG said:
... and the car will be used on track
based on the above requirement I would 'urrr' on the side of caution and get a 2nd Generation. It is well documented that the Gen1 models can suffer oil starvation when being tracked (checkout planet 9 forums for detailed prognosis).

DC5TEG

Original Poster:

307 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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NA55 said:
based on the above requirement I would 'urrr' on the side of caution and get a 2nd Generation. It is well documented that the Gen1 models can suffer oil starvation when being tracked (checkout planet 9 forums for detailed prognosis).
Will have a look mate, cheers!

FisiP1

1,279 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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I'd go for the Gen2 2.9 for added peace of mind with regards the superb DFI engine personally, unless you only intend to keep it for the duration of the OPC warranty, in which case drive both.

What feels fast enough to you is subjective, but you have to be a pretty suicidal driver to get away from a well driven 2.7/2.9 on a twisty B road. Just to echo what Cmoose said.

DC5TEG

Original Poster:

307 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Is it not just the 3.4 S that has the DFI engine, did'nt think the 2.9 did? or am i talking crap.lol

mayes911

6,025 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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2.9 has no dfi but has the same improved block of the gen 2 which is the important bit

petop

2,408 posts

196 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Take this comment in jest but.......IS THERE ANY PORSCHE ENGINE THAT DOESNT HAVE A RMS/IMS/BORE/RINGS/BLOCK PROBLEM??!!!lol

Edited by petop on Wednesday 21st March 08:03

FisiP1

1,279 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Sorry for that was in a rush, my point though was it is still the more solid engine in all likelihood, so you can have somewhat more confidence in keeping it in the long-term if you are the worrying sort.

I had the use of a 2.9 for a few days in the autumn, I personally wouldn't want anything quicker for a B road car.

Squonk

29 posts

177 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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I test drove both in 2009, went for the 2.9 and looking at various comments on here since was glad I did. The price of a second hand Gen 1Cayman S was also in the ball park of a new Gen 2 2.9 at the OPC though I did pay the list price only for a car with over £6000 of extras/RTI cover/Supaguard. Based on my experience not much difference

baz1985

3,685 posts

275 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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I'd go with the Gen 11 2.9, but only with the LSD.

atom111

1,039 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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What year did the Gen2 start hitting the UK all the OPC Gen II seem to be later 2011 early 2012's, earlier 2.9's are just 2.9.

LTCayman

11 posts

178 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Bought a 09 plate Gen 2 3.4 from an OPC, reg date late April