E220 CDI Manual box??
E220 CDI Manual box??
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chrisk

Original Poster:

338 posts

257 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Just after some advice please.

I have an E220 CDI Exec SE as a co. car option and I'd appreciate some people's opinions on the manual gearbox. I would prefer an auto but budget doesn't quite stretch and tax is a touch more... Is the manual terrible? I've driven a C-Class with a manual and it didn't suit the car at all.

Also, I can get an A6 SE TDI for the same price (cheaper tax!) iis the E-Class exec SE the no-brainer or should I seriously consider the Audi and save a few quid in tax?

My preference is to waft about in silence with a focus on comfort over driver appeal.

Any opinions appreciated!

6speedmanual

140 posts

258 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Manual suits the E even less.

matc

4,736 posts

236 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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It's not a terrible gearbox and certainly sells better than it used to. You have the hold function which would help with hill starts - I guess it all comes down to wether you can live with having 4 pedals to contend with!

The Exec SE is a really nicely specced car as standard, not too sure what you get on an A6 SE, but I'd guess it doesn't have quite as much as the E-Class.

SFO

5,181 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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when I sat in 212 manual gearbox car, what really struck me was how very poorly positioned the pedals were .. the clutch is in the same line as the center of the front seat.

r129sl

9,518 posts

232 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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I've got my eye on an E220 CDI Executive SE Estate (what a mouthful). The lease deals are just too good to ignore and for me there are big tax advantages. The spec is pretty good, I couldn't really find much to add except the long range fuel tank, multi-contour seats and comfort suspension. The only really big ones I'd think about are the memory seats and the intelligent xenon lights but since the objective is to save money I'll probably not bother with those. I would have to have the auto, however.

chrisk

Original Poster:

338 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Thanks.

Do you think the comfort suspension is a must? I've not driven to compare.

Any more advice is appreciated.

Chhers

Deva Link

26,934 posts

274 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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r129sl said:
I've got my eye on an E220 CDI Executive SE Estate (what a mouthful). The lease deals are just too good to ignore and for me there are big tax advantages. The spec is pretty good, I couldn't really find much to add except the long range fuel tank, multi-contour seats and comfort suspension. The only really big ones I'd think about are the memory seats and the intelligent xenon lights but since the objective is to save money I'll probably not bother with those. I would have to have the auto, however.
Have you checked how much the options add to the lease? Often they bump it up out of all proportion to the base cost.

SFO

5,181 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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r129sl said:
I've got my eye on an E220 CDI Executive SE Estate (what a mouthful). The lease deals are just too good to ignore and for me there are big tax advantages. The spec is pretty good, I couldn't really find much to add except the long range fuel tank, multi-contour seats and comfort suspension. The only really big ones I'd think about are the memory seats and the intelligent xenon lights but since the objective is to save money I'll probably not bother with those. I would have to have the auto, however.
you can't get Xenon lights as an option on the Executive SE ..

softtop

3,172 posts

276 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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all the taxis in Brussels appear to be 6 speed manuals and 220cdi, they seem ok from the back seat.

r129sl

9,518 posts

232 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Deva Link said:
Have you checked how much the options add to the lease? Often they bump it up out of all proportion to the base cost.
Massive. Basically you have to pay the entirety of the option cost over the lease term. So if it is 6 x 35, which I'm looking at, simply divide the cost of the option by 41 to see how much it adds to the monthly payment. £1,000 option equals £24-odd a month extra. At least I can't have £1,200 on xenon lights! I hadn't noticed that somehow.

Charley Farley

351 posts

234 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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I've been running a facelift 220D C-Class Sport Estate with manual box for 3 months. I would assume it is the same gearbox as the E?

Running as a company car and there were BiK tax benefits from lower emissions on manual. Given that I have always been used to manuals, I didn't see it as a problem. 3 months later, I still don't see it as a problem. The Hill Assist is a very handy & highly effective feature & the gear ratios / change is all adequate (at least on a par with the A4 I had before).

having said that- with this being my first ever Merc (& I must say I am chuffed to bits with it so far)- there is just something about Mercs that makes them inherently suited to an auto box.... Therefore if I go Merc again, I will go auto- not because there is any problem with the manual- but because it will just 'feel' more appropriate.;

Deva Link

26,934 posts

274 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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r129sl said:
Deva Link said:
Have you checked how much the options add to the lease? Often they bump it up out of all proportion to the base cost.
Massive. Basically you have to pay the entirety of the option cost over the lease term. So if it is 6 x 35, which I'm looking at, simply divide the cost of the option by 41 to see how much it adds to the monthly payment. £1,000 option equals £24-odd a month extra. At least I can't have £1,200 on xenon lights! I hadn't noticed that somehow.
A neighbour of mine stopped leasing Mercs because of this - he was rebuying the whole cost of the options every time he changed car. He switched to Lexus where pretty well everything is standard.

matc

4,736 posts

236 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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The Exec SE doesn't miss much as standard though, leather, heated seats, Bluetooth, sat-nav. You can upgrade to COMAND for just over £1 per month as it's only £700ish and adds pretty much that to the residual!


r129sl

9,518 posts

232 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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So far as I can tell the Exec SE is an Avantgarde without the xenon headlights. Didn't know that about the Comand. Thanks. Although I have changed my mind for about the ten millionth time in the course of the day.

Back to the original post, I had a w211 E200 loan car with a 6-speed manual box and rather liked it, much to my surprise.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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matc said:
The Exec SE doesn't miss much as standard though, leather, heated seats, Bluetooth, sat-nav. You can upgrade to COMAND for just over £1 per month as it's only £700ish and adds pretty much that to the residual!
Don't think it comes with the mirror pack though - auto-dimming interior and drivers door mirror plus folding door mirrors which are all pretty useful if perhaps not essential, however then there's the aluminium trim which IMO doesn't suit an E-Class, it needs wood (or wood effect wood!).

SFO

5,181 posts

212 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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yellowbentines said:
matc said:
The Exec SE doesn't miss much as standard though, leather, heated seats, Bluetooth, sat-nav. You can upgrade to COMAND for just over £1 per month as it's only £700ish and adds pretty much that to the residual!
Don't think it comes with the mirror pack though - auto-dimming interior and drivers door mirror plus folding door mirrors which are all pretty useful if perhaps not essential, however then there's the aluminium trim which IMO doesn't suit an E-Class, it needs wood (or wood effect wood!).
mirror package is also standard on the Executive SE, as is Black Ash wood trim like the Avantgarde

G Man

4,053 posts

289 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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isn't the 7 speed auto and met paint a free upgrade offer presently