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I have a totally out of the blue opportunity to buy a rather special one of these. The Independant which is selling it (it's not officially for sale yet) I know and trust implicitly.
1 owner, 1995 on 'N' registration, speed yellow, blue leather interior with roof and air, totally original panels and paint, 20 or so servicing invoices from the supplying OPC. Every old MOT, 60,000 miles. It's a very very proper and pretty car.
I know next to nothing about them, but love cars with provenance such as these, and as previously posted am looking for something 'special' for my 40th Birthday.
So guys, yours opinions would be valued - I think these are a good investment, I think they are reasonably reliable (although will need some annual spend to keep in tip top condition and do it justice). I think they are a bit special. It ticks lots of boxes, I've never even been in a 993 let alone drive a Turbo so haven't a clue what the experience is like (can easily find out of course) but whaddya reckon?!?! It's a long way removed from the GT3/F430s that I have been looking at but it's niggling me.
Cheers,
240
1 owner, 1995 on 'N' registration, speed yellow, blue leather interior with roof and air, totally original panels and paint, 20 or so servicing invoices from the supplying OPC. Every old MOT, 60,000 miles. It's a very very proper and pretty car.
I know next to nothing about them, but love cars with provenance such as these, and as previously posted am looking for something 'special' for my 40th Birthday.
So guys, yours opinions would be valued - I think these are a good investment, I think they are reasonably reliable (although will need some annual spend to keep in tip top condition and do it justice). I think they are a bit special. It ticks lots of boxes, I've never even been in a 993 let alone drive a Turbo so haven't a clue what the experience is like (can easily find out of course) but whaddya reckon?!?! It's a long way removed from the GT3/F430s that I have been looking at but it's niggling me.
Cheers,
240
Edited by 240Cup on Thursday 15th March 19:44
..I would suggest you go for it!!
I can't think of a much better 40th present, and if it is a good one like you say, you're unlikely to lose any money on it (try saying that about other typical 40th birthday presents - I'm planning to go to Vegas for my 40th for example - doubt I'll be able to say the same
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I can't think of a much better 40th present, and if it is a good one like you say, you're unlikely to lose any money on it (try saying that about other typical 40th birthday presents - I'm planning to go to Vegas for my 40th for example - doubt I'll be able to say the same
)I had one of these for six years, fantastic cars, the acceleration even by modern standards is stunning. If this is a cherished one you should be ok however there are many out there that have not been well looked after and require huge amounts of money spending to bring them upto standard. Even with a good one the on going maintenance can be high. At 60k miles they often need the turbo's refreshed, that could be a 3k bill.
You need some seat time (pref driver, but passenger is better than nothing) before taking the plunge. Sometimes people are very disappointed with the drive of these older cars.
You say you've never been in a 993 - what do you have currently? The 993 is now an old car and drives completely differently to modern pork. Some love it, some regard the 996/997 as a substantial step forward in every respect.
I'm sure if you know the Indy they will be happy to take you out in it. Some people also find the Turbo (964/993) to be a bit of a blunt instrument compared to their n/a counterparts; all the more reason to get a drive in it first.
Colour is awesome. Can't see something like this losing too much money.
Joel
You say you've never been in a 993 - what do you have currently? The 993 is now an old car and drives completely differently to modern pork. Some love it, some regard the 996/997 as a substantial step forward in every respect.
I'm sure if you know the Indy they will be happy to take you out in it. Some people also find the Turbo (964/993) to be a bit of a blunt instrument compared to their n/a counterparts; all the more reason to get a drive in it first.
Colour is awesome. Can't see something like this losing too much money.
Joel
Sorry 1995...!
Yes, have had Exige/Elise and other more hardcore track stuff but also a 997Carrera 2S in the past.
Have driven F430, 997 Turbo, 997GT3 and 996GT2 as part of this process. Never considered going back further...!
Tricky one...! I don't want to say at this point what it would potentially be up for sale at out of fairness to the dealer, but where would you see it's value? I do understand it might need some money spending on keeping it nice to the tune of up to a few thou each year. It's on original suspension/turbos as far as I understand it.
Yes, have had Exige/Elise and other more hardcore track stuff but also a 997Carrera 2S in the past.
Have driven F430, 997 Turbo, 997GT3 and 996GT2 as part of this process. Never considered going back further...!
Tricky one...! I don't want to say at this point what it would potentially be up for sale at out of fairness to the dealer, but where would you see it's value? I do understand it might need some money spending on keeping it nice to the tune of up to a few thou each year. It's on original suspension/turbos as far as I understand it.
was the one to keep!Agree on the blue with yellow. I've never liked Metropole either on the later Porsches (I think it's called Midnight on the 993).
If it had been the black interrior I would have thought it fate as my last Exige was yellow with Black leather.
I need to decide if I can see past the blue interior, amongst other things...!
I will hopefully get to see it in the flesh and drive it soon, which is the acid test really.
Cars eh, bl@@dy nightmare...!
If it had been the black interrior I would have thought it fate as my last Exige was yellow with Black leather.
I need to decide if I can see past the blue interior, amongst other things...!
I will hopefully get to see it in the flesh and drive it soon, which is the acid test really.
Cars eh, bl@@dy nightmare...!
barchetta_boy said:
You need some seat time (pref driver, but passenger is better than nothing) before taking the plunge. Sometimes people are very disappointed with the drive of these older cars.
Absolutely. I lusted after one for years, and they remain one of the best looking 911s imho. But the day I drove a perfectly mint example (courtesy of a 911V test drive), I was utterly utterly disappointed. The car felt sluggish in response as if there was too much inertia in the engine to overcome, overweight, and although quick, it just seemed blunt in comparison to even the 993C4 I had previously. It was such a shame as the car they had was in the ideal spec otherwise. Sometimes, it's good to not meet your heroes...only miss mine ( currently for sale at bramley for 83k! a x51 engine upgrade, 10k miles car ) to look at and of course to admire the proper old school porsche build quality....i did however find it mildly disappointing to drive , too heavy and the 4x4 i thought meant it lost feel. one of the best ever 911s to look at but it you want to enjoying driving i would buy a 964RS or better value a mk2 996 gt3 IMVHO
Speed yellow - love it and suits the car beautifully.
There is a few of these for sale at the moment...and been for a couple weeks/months, but indeed as said earlier a very "niche" market, but values hold very well.
And actually some good cars also sell very quickly: took mine 2wks or so if I remember correctly.
Buy on condition: rebuilding turbos can be very expensive! As well as putting the suspension back to date...bits aren't that expensive, but it does add up. Easy to shell out 10kGBP, I know: I did
But a pleasure to drive and if set up properly they can handle everything: mine was a daily in central london, parked outside, cross european hoons, didn't matter in rain/snow, occasional track days (3/4 a year)...loved it to bits!
There is a few of these for sale at the moment...and been for a couple weeks/months, but indeed as said earlier a very "niche" market, but values hold very well.
And actually some good cars also sell very quickly: took mine 2wks or so if I remember correctly.
Buy on condition: rebuilding turbos can be very expensive! As well as putting the suspension back to date...bits aren't that expensive, but it does add up. Easy to shell out 10kGBP, I know: I did
But a pleasure to drive and if set up properly they can handle everything: mine was a daily in central london, parked outside, cross european hoons, didn't matter in rain/snow, occasional track days (3/4 a year)...loved it to bits!
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