Club 100 karting
Discussion
i know a few of you race in Club100, i am considering entering next year with my brother in the enduro championships. does anyone know how they enter you in the championships, i.e can anyone enter the rookie/intermeadiate championships or do they place you in a championship relative to your lap time at a test or something. thanks for your help!
If you have no previous experiance with Club100 or 100cc TKM karts they treat you as a rookie even if you have previous experience in a prokart championship.
You have to guage your own ability though as last year a rookie team was moved up into the next catagory because they were too good, they basically left the feild for dead. If you want you can do a test day or two and see how you get on (details on www.club100.co.uk/ ) . I would recomend this as Club100's karts will be a big step up if you have only done indoor or prokarts before.
This is my second year in Club100, I ran the endurance rookie championship last year and finished second place and am currently lying 8th place in the intermediate endurnace championship (team name TICCS).
I have also raced a round of their sprint championship which works by weight ie lightweight or heavyweight. All levels race together and depending how you get on in your four heats are allocated an A, B or C final with A being the best. You can partake in the rookie championship but as soon as you make an A final you lose your rookie status and get put into the overall championship.
John Vigor who runs Club100 is a good bloke and will be able to answer any questions you may have or just ask me.
Cheers
Paul
You have to guage your own ability though as last year a rookie team was moved up into the next catagory because they were too good, they basically left the feild for dead. If you want you can do a test day or two and see how you get on (details on www.club100.co.uk/ ) . I would recomend this as Club100's karts will be a big step up if you have only done indoor or prokarts before.
This is my second year in Club100, I ran the endurance rookie championship last year and finished second place and am currently lying 8th place in the intermediate endurnace championship (team name TICCS).
I have also raced a round of their sprint championship which works by weight ie lightweight or heavyweight. All levels race together and depending how you get on in your four heats are allocated an A, B or C final with A being the best. You can partake in the rookie championship but as soon as you make an A final you lose your rookie status and get put into the overall championship.
John Vigor who runs Club100 is a good bloke and will be able to answer any questions you may have or just ask me.
Cheers
Paul
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If you want you can do a test day or two and see how you get on (details on www.club100.co.uk/ ) . I would recomend this as Club100's karts will be a big step up if you have only done indoor or prokarts before.
I have also raced a round of their sprint championship which works by weight ie lightweight or heavyweight.
The test days are worthwhile and taken seriously by all. They are also great fun.
The sprint split is (or was) driver weight 80kg. A few people have been known to say they were >80kg rather than <80kg to gain an advantage by being the lightest in the heavyweight class. Serious levels of gamesmanship.
Bloody quick those 100cc direct drive karts though
The entry weight for the heavywight sprint class is 80kg with driver suited and seat insert if applicable. Driver then have to add weight to come up to 85kg.
EG I weigh 81kg so have to carry 4kg of lead to race. Scales are at all events and spot checks are carried out throughout the event. Top three in each final automatically weighed after the race and people have been disqualified for being underweight.
Yep they are quick drivers were seeing 70mph at Clay Pigeon.
Paul
EG I weigh 81kg so have to carry 4kg of lead to race. Scales are at all events and spot checks are carried out throughout the event. Top three in each final automatically weighed after the race and people have been disqualified for being underweight.
Yep they are quick drivers were seeing 70mph at Clay Pigeon.
Paul
Did the HW sprints the last two years, and it's great fun but by Christ it's competitive! Haven't had the time to devote to it this year. There are some really quick boys doing this series and unless I do plenty of testing/racing I get annihilated. Several people in the sprint championship also do the endurance, purely for seat time.
Anyone who likes speed and hasn't tried 2 stroke karting should give it a go with club 100. They claim 5-60 in 4 secs (no clutch hence rolling start) and a top speed of 80mph depending on which sprockets they're running. Do a test day but beware that the standard on race days is in a completely different league to what you will see on a test.
Kevin
PS take you're own helmet if you have one as they will relieve you of a tenner for hire of kit.
Anyone who likes speed and hasn't tried 2 stroke karting should give it a go with club 100. They claim 5-60 in 4 secs (no clutch hence rolling start) and a top speed of 80mph depending on which sprockets they're running. Do a test day but beware that the standard on race days is in a completely different league to what you will see on a test.
Kevin
PS take you're own helmet if you have one as they will relieve you of a tenner for hire of kit.
I totally agree with all the above but lets not scare the guys.
The sprint series is very competative because there is no seperate level, experianced drivers and rookies race together and can be quite daunting, but with the endurance championships you can enter at your own level ie rookie, intermediate or premier. The raceing at each level is kept close to encorage close racing and the championships are usually taken down to the wire, usually decided at the last event. The top 5 teams in each endurance series has to move up to the next series at the end of the season so you dont have teams dominating for years at a time.
Club100 has a great social side and like to promote the club aspect. As they race all over the country people tend to stay over for certain events. The drivers are a great bunch of people and you can look forward to drunken nights of beer curry and nightclubs and great racing.
Paul
The sprint series is very competative because there is no seperate level, experianced drivers and rookies race together and can be quite daunting, but with the endurance championships you can enter at your own level ie rookie, intermediate or premier. The raceing at each level is kept close to encorage close racing and the championships are usually taken down to the wire, usually decided at the last event. The top 5 teams in each endurance series has to move up to the next series at the end of the season so you dont have teams dominating for years at a time.
Club100 has a great social side and like to promote the club aspect. As they race all over the country people tend to stay over for certain events. The drivers are a great bunch of people and you can look forward to drunken nights of beer curry and nightclubs and great racing.
Paul
nearly forgot. not sure if these will work
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/cb4b7a6f/bc/Karting/Clay+Pigeon+1.jpg?bcwfMH9AYKKlfgmK
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/cb4b7a6f/bc/Karting/Clay+Pigeon+2.jpg?bcwfMH9Adt_mXVbF
You may have to cut and paste the links to work
>> Edited by Cotty on Wednesday 29th May 20:47
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/cb4b7a6f/bc/Karting/Clay+Pigeon+1.jpg?bcwfMH9AYKKlfgmK
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/cb4b7a6f/bc/Karting/Clay+Pigeon+2.jpg?bcwfMH9Adt_mXVbF
You may have to cut and paste the links to work
>> Edited by Cotty on Wednesday 29th May 20:47
What about a PistonHeads club100 event? Always been tempted by Club100 corporate events but could never get enough people involved to make it worthwhile. If you can 75 people signing up to hoon around Chatsworth, surely we could get 25 or so to blast around Buckmore or Rye House?
Just a thought.
Kevin
Just a thought.
Kevin
The thing is you need quite a few drivers for a club100 event see www.club100.co.uk/Experience.html
Why not just see who is interested and contest a round of one of the edurance championships, race fees are £335 for a 2 1/2 hour event but split four ways is reasonable. I think you can do one off events you would have to check. Enter the Intermediates endurance and ill see you on track.
Why not just see who is interested and contest a round of one of the edurance championships, race fees are £335 for a 2 1/2 hour event but split four ways is reasonable. I think you can do one off events you would have to check. Enter the Intermediates endurance and ill see you on track.
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What about a PistonHeads club100 event?
Kevin
Just had a
why not get some likeminded people together and enter a Pistonheads.com team for the full series. I dont think Ted would mind a bit of advertisement, most events are attended by up to 70 drivers and most drivers in each series use Club100's version of gassing in the VIP area. The endurance series also has coverage in karting magazine although the circulation is low. Might even get a cap out of it
or howabout a sew on badge on the back or each racesuit. I might be interested in this myself as i might lose my driver next year. Paul
The more I think about this the better it gets. I have been writing race reports for the Lloyds Motor Club but after 4 events they are still not posted on their site. I could write the reports for ted to post along with some photos.
Kevin
Im still not sure what my regular driver is up to next year. He may go to ProMax. The karts are about as quick as the Club100's TKM and would lap Buckmoor Park in around 47seconds
You would have loved my last event. Below is the race report. Its not great but im trying and they are getting better.
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Round 4 Clay Pigeon
Date 3rd May 2002
Clay Pigeon is situated in Dorset about 160 miles away from London, being a long treck most drivers chose to stay over. The endurance is held on the Friday and Club100 hold a sprint event on the Sunday so decided to stay over and make a weekend of it and race in the sprint event as well.
As Tom was racing in a ProMax kart on the Saturday I had to find a couple of drivers for the event. Mark Roberts and Dean Evans were recruited. Both had raced at Clay before and were racing in the sprint event so it worked out well. Also a three-man team helps keep costs down.
This is probably the fastest track that Club100 race on so I was looking forward to seeing the upper end of the TKM kart. It turns out that the average lap speed is approx 44mph with the karts hitting 70mph through the fast downhill section called Billy's Blind, which is taken flat.
The 815meter track has some long sweeping corners, which can be taken a great speed. There are some good overtaking spots, however you have to be very brave and very good on the brakes. With the standard of drivers this was going to be a tough race.
We started the race in 20th position on the outside of the grid, after a couple of rolling up laps the flag went down and the race was on. First up is a long sweeping right hander, taken flat after the start, which spits you out onto the first straight, move over to the right down through Billy’s Blind flat out at 70mph just clipping the curb. Then its hard on the brakes, rear wheels skipping about, turn in hard right clipping the apex, made up a couple of places due to an accident ahead, sweeping right hander let the kart run wide onto the racing line, then hard right up through the esse’s onto the back straight. Keep the throttle buried and let the kart drift to the outside of the track. Move to the left, have a quick look round then hard on the brakes for the tight right, turn in and power out drifting out onto the rumble strips, dab the brakes then turn into the sharp left hander keep the power on and let the kart drift a little, settle the kart and full throttle into a sweeping right to finish the lap.
During the race the rain came down. Imagine if you will, you’re in a kart doing 50-60mph down hill with slick tyres and standing water, you brake gently but the rear wheels aquaplane and lock up. You’re sliding, engine stalls, your world slips into slow motion and you wonder if you fancy bacon butty after the race. Then you do what must be the most stupid thing ever, you lift off the brake and throttle the kart, the rear wheels bite, the engine starts but you’re already at the corner so you turn in and feed in the power, the kart is sideways and you’re drifting to the outside of the track, the tyre walls inviting you in but you realize that you’re pointing straight at the esse’s, you’re quickly up through, throwing up big rooster tails of spray down the straight and realize you saved it for another lap.
I moved up from 20th to 11th then lost it all due to a stupid braking maneuver ending up having to retrieve the kart from the tires. Mark and Dean ran superbly in atrocious conditions and together we worked our way back up the field to finish 7th place out of 32 teams with Happy Lappers 1st ,Sideswipe RACING 2 in 2ndand Heavy SPRINTERS in 3rd. This is enough to place us in 8th position in the championship.
Club100 has great social side and all the drivers are very approachable off the track. With drinks after the racing the conversation rarely ventured far from karts. Some went off for a Chinese the rest heading directly to the local club. Stories were rife the next day about 5am finishes, only to get up at 10am for a heavy vs. lightweight football match which was won by the lightweights 3-2 although controversy surrounds the game. A rematch is scheduled for the next race.
Saturday was more subdued for some, few beers, curry and more beers then early to bed if you can call 12 o’clock early!
Sunday dawned bright and dry and drivers fighting their hangovers arrived at the track and got suited up. A lighthearted briefing followed and then onto the racing.
Being my first sprint event I had a buddy driver to show me the ropes. A sprint consists of three heats and a final. Depending how many points you receive during your heats you will be put in the A B or C final with the top 4 drivers in each heat moving up to the next final.
I kept out of trouble in my heats avoiding accidents and just going as fast as I dared. Sprint racing is very different to Endurance racing as you only have six laps in each heat to make up positions so racing tends to be very close and hard fought. I managed to qualify 5th in the B final needing to make up one place to put me in the A final. During the final I was passed by two karts and fought hard to retake the positions finishing in 5th place. One more place and I would have lost my rookie status by making an A final.
To sum up it was a great weekend with some great really close racing and a great bunch of people to hang out with.
Yours with a hangover and aching all over
Paul Cottington
Im still not sure what my regular driver is up to next year. He may go to ProMax. The karts are about as quick as the Club100's TKM and would lap Buckmoor Park in around 47seconds
You would have loved my last event. Below is the race report. Its not great but im trying and they are getting better.
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Round 4 Clay Pigeon
Date 3rd May 2002
Clay Pigeon is situated in Dorset about 160 miles away from London, being a long treck most drivers chose to stay over. The endurance is held on the Friday and Club100 hold a sprint event on the Sunday so decided to stay over and make a weekend of it and race in the sprint event as well.
As Tom was racing in a ProMax kart on the Saturday I had to find a couple of drivers for the event. Mark Roberts and Dean Evans were recruited. Both had raced at Clay before and were racing in the sprint event so it worked out well. Also a three-man team helps keep costs down.
This is probably the fastest track that Club100 race on so I was looking forward to seeing the upper end of the TKM kart. It turns out that the average lap speed is approx 44mph with the karts hitting 70mph through the fast downhill section called Billy's Blind, which is taken flat.
The 815meter track has some long sweeping corners, which can be taken a great speed. There are some good overtaking spots, however you have to be very brave and very good on the brakes. With the standard of drivers this was going to be a tough race.
We started the race in 20th position on the outside of the grid, after a couple of rolling up laps the flag went down and the race was on. First up is a long sweeping right hander, taken flat after the start, which spits you out onto the first straight, move over to the right down through Billy’s Blind flat out at 70mph just clipping the curb. Then its hard on the brakes, rear wheels skipping about, turn in hard right clipping the apex, made up a couple of places due to an accident ahead, sweeping right hander let the kart run wide onto the racing line, then hard right up through the esse’s onto the back straight. Keep the throttle buried and let the kart drift to the outside of the track. Move to the left, have a quick look round then hard on the brakes for the tight right, turn in and power out drifting out onto the rumble strips, dab the brakes then turn into the sharp left hander keep the power on and let the kart drift a little, settle the kart and full throttle into a sweeping right to finish the lap.
During the race the rain came down. Imagine if you will, you’re in a kart doing 50-60mph down hill with slick tyres and standing water, you brake gently but the rear wheels aquaplane and lock up. You’re sliding, engine stalls, your world slips into slow motion and you wonder if you fancy bacon butty after the race. Then you do what must be the most stupid thing ever, you lift off the brake and throttle the kart, the rear wheels bite, the engine starts but you’re already at the corner so you turn in and feed in the power, the kart is sideways and you’re drifting to the outside of the track, the tyre walls inviting you in but you realize that you’re pointing straight at the esse’s, you’re quickly up through, throwing up big rooster tails of spray down the straight and realize you saved it for another lap.
I moved up from 20th to 11th then lost it all due to a stupid braking maneuver ending up having to retrieve the kart from the tires. Mark and Dean ran superbly in atrocious conditions and together we worked our way back up the field to finish 7th place out of 32 teams with Happy Lappers 1st ,Sideswipe RACING 2 in 2ndand Heavy SPRINTERS in 3rd. This is enough to place us in 8th position in the championship.
Club100 has great social side and all the drivers are very approachable off the track. With drinks after the racing the conversation rarely ventured far from karts. Some went off for a Chinese the rest heading directly to the local club. Stories were rife the next day about 5am finishes, only to get up at 10am for a heavy vs. lightweight football match which was won by the lightweights 3-2 although controversy surrounds the game. A rematch is scheduled for the next race.
Saturday was more subdued for some, few beers, curry and more beers then early to bed if you can call 12 o’clock early!
Sunday dawned bright and dry and drivers fighting their hangovers arrived at the track and got suited up. A lighthearted briefing followed and then onto the racing.
Being my first sprint event I had a buddy driver to show me the ropes. A sprint consists of three heats and a final. Depending how many points you receive during your heats you will be put in the A B or C final with the top 4 drivers in each heat moving up to the next final.
I kept out of trouble in my heats avoiding accidents and just going as fast as I dared. Sprint racing is very different to Endurance racing as you only have six laps in each heat to make up positions so racing tends to be very close and hard fought. I managed to qualify 5th in the B final needing to make up one place to put me in the A final. During the final I was passed by two karts and fought hard to retake the positions finishing in 5th place. One more place and I would have lost my rookie status by making an A final.
To sum up it was a great weekend with some great really close racing and a great bunch of people to hang out with.
Yours with a hangover and aching all over
Paul Cottington
Paul,
You had a good weekend then?
Clay Pigeon is a really nice open circuit, and I've done the Elites and the Sprints there. I think it's the only one they change the sprockets for, since the karts rev their t*ts off with the normal gearing. Have to say that Lydd is my favourite circuit- fast,technically challenging and you need balls to lap quickly there. The drive down there is also b. good.
Anyhow, let me know if you need another driver.
Have a good one!
Kevin
You had a good weekend then?
Clay Pigeon is a really nice open circuit, and I've done the Elites and the Sprints there. I think it's the only one they change the sprockets for, since the karts rev their t*ts off with the normal gearing. Have to say that Lydd is my favourite circuit- fast,technically challenging and you need balls to lap quickly there. The drive down there is also b. good. Anyhow, let me know if you need another driver.
Have a good one!
Kevin
Yep I really like Lydd. We won a rookie endurance round there in the rain and I mean deep standing water and have subsequently raced there in the dry. It has lots of different types of corner and I love the horseshoe onto the back straight which you can take flat out.
There is a road on the way down called the A1101 or A1011 that is the nuts, long straights and long sweeping corners that you can really get the hammer down. No speed cameras that I saw but did once spot a jam sandwich hiding in the bushes, told my other driver about it and he borrowed hit dads TVR Chimera and you should have seen the grin on his face
when he got out of the car and thats before the racing started.
There is a road on the way down called the A1101 or A1011 that is the nuts, long straights and long sweeping corners that you can really get the hammer down. No speed cameras that I saw but did once spot a jam sandwich hiding in the bushes, told my other driver about it and he borrowed hit dads TVR Chimera and you should have seen the grin on his face
when he got out of the car and thats before the racing started. Just booked some places on the test day at whilton mill for me and 3 mates - see how we get on, and hopefully next year do a couple of races, then full season the year after!!
How different are they to pro-karts?, had a blast at Birmingham wheels the other weekend and was lapping in the 37 - 38 second bracket (full circuit) - what lap times do the C100 karts do?.
Cheers
Chris
How different are they to pro-karts?, had a blast at Birmingham wheels the other weekend and was lapping in the 37 - 38 second bracket (full circuit) - what lap times do the C100 karts do?.
Cheers
Chris
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Just booked some places on the test day at whilton mill for me and 3 mates - see how we get on, and hopefully next year do a couple of races, then full season the year after!!
How different are they to pro-karts?, had a blast at Birmingham wheels the other weekend and was lapping in the 37 - 38 second bracket (full circuit) - what lap times do the C100 karts do?.
Cheers
Chris
Obviously they are a lot quicker, 5-60phm in under 4 seconds and 80mph top speed, but they are more comfortable to drive. Some pro-kart have offset driving positions which I find strange.
They are direct drive so you need a push start in the pits (you cant start yourself). If you spin on the track there are pusher karts to get you started but you have to get out the kart and drag it back to the track if you go off.
Depending on the gearing they can get bogged down in tight hairpins so you need to keep your speed up and be as smooth as you can. As for Birmingham wheels the top drivers were lapping in low 36 seconds, in fact the first 18 teams in the premier endurance all posted times under 37 seconds. The trouble with birmingham is that its very tight and there is not really anywere to max the kart out. At Buckmore Park your probably looking at 3-4 seconds quicker that a prokart.
Good luck with your test day and if you do a race you will never go back to prokarts.
Paul
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